00:00:28.720,00:00:29.880 Well... 00:00:30.880,00:00:33.800 Different times all have something good... 00:00:33.880,00:00:36.280 and something bad about them... 00:00:36.920,00:00:40.080 But as a community, the human species is a disaster. 00:00:41.400,00:00:42.640 A disaster! 00:00:42.640,00:00:46.040 So, it's hard to say, that the past was better. 00:00:49.840,00:00:52.440 Fear?... No, not at all. 00:00:53.320,00:00:54.800 No... no... 00:00:54.880,00:00:57.120 I don't like it, of course, obviously. 00:00:57.440,00:00:59.920 And now, well, at my age... 00:01:00.760,00:01:03.200 When, let's say, it's clear 00:01:03.880,00:01:06.000 that the exit is right here, 00:01:06.640,00:01:07.880 No... 00:01:07.880,00:01:09.360 I’m not frightened of... No, not frightened. 00:01:11.480,00:01:14.840 But one thing I really don't like 00:01:17.120,00:01:19.040 is when people say... 00:01:19.120,00:01:21.680 “Oh, being alive and dying and all that...” 00:01:22.600,00:01:24.120 For me, death is... 00:01:25.360,00:01:27.600 I don't know what awaits us, 00:01:27.680,00:01:30.120 or as I'm about to die... 00:01:30.560,00:01:33.240 what I'll make of it... 00:01:33.600,00:01:37.400 But for me, death right now is the difference 00:01:37.400,00:01:40.560 between had been and being no more. 00:01:42.320,00:01:46.440 This is what... that is what really bothers me. 00:01:50.320,00:01:54.840 You're welcome Pepa, lots of love and see you soon. 00:01:55.240,00:01:56.520 Bye, bye. 00:01:58.040,00:02:00.280 -Thank you... -José Saramago. 00:02:00.280,00:02:01.640 Portuguese Nobel prizewinner for Literature 00:02:01.720,00:02:04.040 is concluding his novel “Small Memories” 00:02:04.120,00:02:06.640 which will probably be published in November. 00:02:06.760,00:02:08.880 Let us finish with a phrase of his; 00:02:09.000,00:02:12.880 “The history of mankind is the history of his misunderstandings with God. 00:02:13.000,00:02:16.440 He doesn't understand us, we don't understand him” 00:02:16.560,00:02:18.960 Another great translation by Pilar del Río, 00:02:18.960,00:02:20.760 lots of love, Pilar. 00:02:20.880,00:02:22.160 And now, some great music. 00:02:55.600,00:02:58.600 LIBRARY CONSTRUCTION 00:03:01.040,00:03:03.440 I once wrote that everything is autobiographical. 00:03:03.520,00:03:07.320 That we all tell our story in everything we do and say, 00:03:08.040,00:03:11.000 in our gestures, in the way we walk and look, 00:03:11.200,00:03:14.600 in the way we turn our heads or pick something up from the ground. 00:03:16.360,00:03:19.200 I mean, that we all live surrounded by signs, 00:03:19.760,00:03:22.160 we ourselves are a system of signs. 00:03:23.760,00:03:26.800 But be that as it may, my readers needn't worry, 00:03:27.120,00:03:30.440 this Narcissus contemplating himself in the water today, 00:03:30.520,00:03:33.080 will destroy his own reflection tomorrow 00:03:33.200,00:03:34.800 with his own hand. 00:03:39.080,00:03:41.280 What is it? "Young Armani". 00:03:41.400,00:03:44.240 When you get the chance, snip it out with some small scissors. 00:03:46.440,00:03:47.720 It's incredible! 00:03:48.800,00:03:50.200 It's like a dream. 00:03:51.840,00:03:55.120 -Goodbye Armani, goodbye. -Isn't that right? 00:03:55.760,00:03:57.160 I still have to translate it, 00:03:57.240,00:03:58.760 because I'm not really sure what it's about... 00:03:58.840,00:04:01.440 -I've read a bit and it's about... -No, it's not that... 00:04:01.800,00:04:03.720 The book will be titled, 00:04:05.320,00:04:07.200 "The Elephant's Journey." 00:04:08.320,00:04:09.600 It's not about the people 00:04:09.680,00:04:12.120 who go with the elephant, who take him. 00:04:12.240,00:04:13.920 -Of course. -It's the elephant. 00:04:15.320,00:04:18.240 And what does the elephant do all this time? 00:04:20.480,00:04:24.120 It walks, walks, walks, trudges on and on, 00:04:24.400,00:04:25.680 nothing else. 00:04:26.040,00:04:27.880 I still need more information, 00:04:28.280,00:04:31.320 things which seem pretty silly, right? 00:04:33.000,00:04:38.160 Are elephants like horses, do they sleep standing up? 00:04:38.920,00:04:41.320 -I don't have the slightest idea. -I've never owned an elephant. 00:04:41.400,00:04:43.640 -Right. -And that's the problem right there. 00:04:43.720,00:04:47.920 It's small things like that, which seem silly, but which are vital. 00:04:48.560,00:04:52.160 There's an idea, but... It's very hard, very, very hard. 00:04:53.040,00:04:54.320 Let's see, let's see... 00:04:55.560,00:04:58.320 Let time pass, let things mature... 00:05:00.280,00:05:04.680 And if it is meant to be, it will be, and if it isn't, it won't. Period. 00:05:06.240,00:05:07.960 -Pilar! -Yes, my love. 00:05:07.960,00:05:09.200 I'm going home. 00:05:09.280,00:05:11.600 ACT I THE PREPARATION 00:05:12.440,00:05:15.360 THE HOUSE 00:05:22.160,00:05:23.440 Let's see... 00:06:15.920,00:06:17.200 No... 00:06:18.040,00:06:19.320 No... 00:06:19.560,00:06:21.280 I'm going to see if I can do something here. 00:06:25.560,00:06:28.120 This one here and that one there. 00:06:29.120,00:06:30.360 I've won! 00:06:30.840,00:06:34.840 And then the cards... perform a kind of dance... 00:06:39.880,00:06:41.600 It's funny, it's really pretty. 00:06:44.120,00:06:46.440 It's good for keeping Alzheimer's at bay. 00:06:46.800,00:06:52.000 Always assuming that Alzheimer's wouldn't be able to beat this game, 00:06:52.120,00:06:53.360 or any game. 00:06:53.800,00:06:55.040 Nice, isn't it? 00:07:03.000,00:07:05.920 Hello to all our listeners in Portugal. 00:07:11.080,00:07:14.360 José has a daughter called Violante, 00:07:15.560,00:07:19.440 he has two grandkids, Tiago and Ana. 00:07:20.360,00:07:23.680 He also has a wife, with whom you're speaking, 00:07:25.040,00:07:27.040 who is the oldest of 14 brothers and sisters 00:07:27.120,00:07:28.760 which means that Saramago has a very big family. 00:07:28.840,00:07:30.680 OK, bye, Lots of love, Paula. 00:07:30.840,00:07:32.120 Here's José. 00:07:34.080,00:07:35.840 Saramago's declarations 00:07:35.960,00:07:39.400 in the end are so naive they're actually embarrassing. 00:07:39.520,00:07:41.280 If he was dazzled by the Nobel Prize... 00:07:41.360,00:07:43.920 José Saramago owes it all to Portugal. 00:07:44.040,00:07:45.760 And he is no better than any other Portuguese person. 00:07:45.760,00:07:48.720 José Saramago did for the Portuguese language 00:07:48.880,00:07:51.520 what millions of his fellow Portuguese citizens were unable to do... 00:07:51.800,00:07:54.120 We are now opening the forum in which we debate the controversy 00:08:09.360,00:08:11.240 I really don't know what to say. 00:08:12.080,00:08:14.560 We'll say that? we are literature students 00:08:14.760,00:08:16.280 and that is why we came to see him. 00:08:16.360,00:08:19.040 That our literary criticism teacher recommended we visit him. 00:08:19.520,00:08:22.400 How beautiful is Lanzarote? -Should we talk about literature? 00:08:22.400,00:08:24.600 -No. -We'll ask him to sign our books. 00:08:25.200,00:08:27.280 And we can ask him if he'll take a picture with us. 00:08:31.160,00:08:33.160 -Good morning! -Good morning! 00:08:36.040,00:08:37.280 Sara. 00:08:40.240,00:08:42.440 -Francesca. -Nice meeting you. 00:08:43.600,00:08:44.800 Alicia. 00:08:52.160,00:08:53.760 What language shall we speak in? 00:08:54.240,00:08:57.040 -English, Italian. -A bit of Spanish. 00:08:57.560,00:09:00.000 -French. -And a bit of French. 00:09:00.280,00:09:02.560 So, a bit of everything. 00:09:03.160,00:09:04.760 How's it going? 00:09:07.240,00:09:08.880 We decided to come? 00:09:08.880,00:09:11.360 So how are you coming along in Portuguese... 00:09:11.440,00:09:13.000 the language and its literature? 00:09:16.160,00:09:19.920 We went to the book fair in Turin, 00:09:20.000,00:09:24.880 in May, to meet you... 00:09:26.240,00:09:29.480 I have to go to Turin in September, 00:09:30.800,00:09:36.560 And on the same day, will be opening at La Scala... 00:09:36.840,00:09:39.400 Not exactly an opera of mine, because I'm not a musician, of course. 00:09:39.680,00:09:43.320 Because the idea that's been around for I don't know how many centuries, 00:09:43.560,00:09:46.680 ever since Tirso de Molina, 00:09:46.760,00:09:52.960 that Don Giovanni is a scoundrel, a bad, nasty person... 00:09:55.560,00:10:00.800 Well, it was a pleasure meeting you all, and if you come back one day, you know. 00:10:02.480,00:10:06.440 I'll be here, waiting to have a coffee with you. 00:10:14.800,00:10:16.160 And how's Berlusconi doing? 00:10:16.480,00:10:17.720 So, so... 00:10:18.360,00:10:19.600 Pilar. 00:10:19.840,00:10:21.120 I'm going home. 00:10:21.200,00:10:24.200 I mean, these texts are important, very important. 00:10:24.200,00:10:27.880 Bloom's presentation, Harold Bloom, 00:10:28.000,00:10:30.040 I'm not sure whether it's in Coimbra or New York... 00:10:30.520,00:10:35.160 It's great: that “The Cave” has been selected. 00:10:35.680,00:10:38.160 We can save it or throw it away. 00:10:38.480,00:10:41.960 -How did José learn English? -Unfortunately he didn't... 00:10:42.120,00:10:44.320 -José doesn't know English. -No, we won't go... 00:10:44.520,00:10:46.680 Either we won't answer, or we'll say we are unable to reply. 00:10:46.840,00:10:48.280 Say we can't, and that's that. 00:10:48.560,00:10:49.840 This is José! 00:10:53.920,00:10:56.000 The title is “City of The Blind“ based on “Ensaio sobre a cegueira”. 00:10:56.160,00:10:57.440 Sure... 00:10:59.200,00:11:01.400 The things men come up with. 00:11:01.800,00:11:04.240 Is this really supposed to be a caricature of José? 00:11:06.040,00:11:08.440 These are things of mine which I... 00:11:09.240,00:11:12.080 -We got the letter... -Is it done? Print it. 00:11:12.160,00:11:14.080 Is it about the war? 00:11:14.640,00:11:17.320 These are things which people make and send us. 00:11:17.880,00:11:19.080 It's amazing! 00:11:19.080,00:11:23.320 I feel terrible tearing up what these people have made. 00:11:25.200,00:11:26.440 Food! 00:11:27.520,00:11:30.240 Cod au gratin for 6... 00:11:32.880,00:11:34.160 This we'll save. 00:11:34.800,00:11:36.440 With horrible letters, it depends... 00:11:36.440,00:11:39.280 The insulting letters go straight in the trash, 00:11:39.360,00:11:43.160 but the ones that say something useful, we respect and reply to. 00:11:43.640,00:11:46.480 Dear José Saramago, I would like to say that my father... 00:11:46.560,00:11:49.320 My dear narrator, with all due respect to Pilar, 00:11:49.520,00:11:52.960 I would like to declare that you, José, are the most important, 00:11:53.040,00:11:56.400 -and only man in my life... -Sara Mago! Who is this lady? 00:11:56.400,00:11:58.160 And what does she have against God? 00:11:58.280,00:12:00.280 At your age, Sara, dear, 00:12:00.360,00:12:03.160 you should start making peace with everyone... 00:12:03.520,00:12:05.440 My birthday is on the 16th of November too. 00:12:05.440,00:12:07.520 And I always think of you when I blow out my candles. 00:12:07.520,00:12:11.640 Stupid, stupid, neurotic jerk! 00:12:12.400,00:12:15.160 Too bad the inquisition isn't still around, 00:12:15.400,00:12:18.480 you would have been publicly burned at the stake 00:12:18.560,00:12:20.480 and I'd have watched from a front row seat! 00:12:23.880,00:12:25.880 José, did you read the news... 00:12:26.120,00:12:27.640 ...about how they want to recreate 00:12:27.720,00:12:29.280 the origin of the universe, in Switzerland? 00:12:29.600,00:12:33.080 I don't know what's going to come of that experiment... 00:12:33.600,00:12:36.840 I hope they don't create another universe as bad as this one, 00:12:37.600,00:12:40.600 or a planet as crazy as the one we live on. 00:12:41.440,00:12:46.880 ... There'll be strong winds, up to 60km/h, fanning the flames 00:12:47.000,00:12:49.240 and possibly producing a new front. 00:12:50.360,00:12:53.200 Fears of a war in the Caucasus have grown... 00:12:53.560,00:12:54.800 February 4th. 00:12:54.800,00:12:57.520 We see the abyss, right in front of our eyes, 00:12:57.720,00:13:02.080 and yet we head straight towards it, like a bunch of suicidal lemmings 00:13:02.600,00:13:05.160 with the big difference that, on the way, 00:13:05.240,00:13:08.880 we amuse ourselves, by slaughtering each other. 00:13:13.960,00:13:16.160 José, these are the books you have to write dedication for, 00:13:16.320,00:13:18.000 and their owners will give them to me. 00:13:18.360,00:13:24.560 These are books that people leave at the library. 00:13:26.240,00:13:28.200 -We've come to this? -Yeah... 00:13:28.680,00:13:31.040 You have to do it otherwise they'll be asking: 00:13:31.800,00:13:34.280 ”Is my book ready? Is my book ready?” 00:13:35.120,00:13:37.000 This is getting out of hand... 00:13:37.120,00:13:38.800 Now comes the worst part. 00:13:41.720,00:13:43.240 I don't know where to begin! 00:13:43.600,00:13:45.960 Presiding the official award ceremony. 00:13:45.960,00:13:47.280 Pilar... no, 00:13:47.280,00:13:49.720 Which should be happening at the end of this June... 00:13:49.800,00:13:51.600 We'll be in Japan. 00:13:51.760,00:13:57.200 Istanbul... has to be one weekend before the end of May. 00:13:57.640,00:13:58.880 Shit! 00:13:59.040,00:14:01.600 A weekend, 2 or 3 days and that's it. 00:14:01.680,00:14:04.840 Sara, that diary with all the papers... Bring it here. 00:14:05.280,00:14:07.040 Hello, hello. 00:14:08.560,00:14:11.920 I mean, you come in here and don't even greet the boss! 00:14:13.720,00:14:15.400 What do you mean, I don't greet the boss? 00:14:16.080,00:14:17.320 How are you? 00:14:17.320,00:14:21.400 -That's it, Italy. -I don't know if it's worth it. 00:14:21.760,00:14:23.840 Going to Rome in December? 00:14:26.120,00:14:29.520 Since there's so much time, we can always say yes... 00:14:30.200,00:14:31.560 and then look at it again later. 00:14:31.640,00:14:34.280 This for example, they only want your support... 00:14:35.280,00:14:38.240 -Goodness, it's so hot! -And what are they asking, dear? 00:14:39.200,00:14:40.480 -Support? -Yes. 00:14:41.040,00:14:43.000 Maria Cortez, who is she? 00:14:43.000,00:14:44.280 It doesn't matter. 00:14:44.280,00:14:47.480 "What would happen if a man killed another with his... 00:14:47.560,00:14:49.480 his seminal fluid, like poison..." 00:14:49.560,00:14:50.840 This one's gay. 00:14:52.160,00:14:53.680 Are you going to read it? 00:14:54.080,00:14:57.680 I should try to read these books but they're so thick... 00:14:58.880,00:15:01.520 It's an association from Madrid that... 00:15:02.640,00:15:05.840 has sent you a magazine for you to see what they're doing. 00:15:06.720,00:15:08.440 There you are, you've seen it... all seen. 00:15:08.520,00:15:10.320 How am I supposed to write a preface 00:15:10.400,00:15:13.880 for an installation, if I've never seen it? 00:15:14.040,00:15:18.440 -Say you can't. -No, let me answer this one. 00:15:19.480,00:15:22.320 Shit, I haven't had time to look at this. 00:15:23.000,00:15:25.800 -It's the Dalai Lama... -And what does the Dalai Lama want? 00:15:26.160,00:15:30.440 To see if I want to be part of an honorary commission... 00:15:31.440,00:15:34.360 He's not really much to my liking. 00:15:34.440,00:15:36.720 We could? No, I could write a letter saying; 00:15:37.160,00:15:39.840 “My husband agrees to be part of the commission, 00:15:39.840,00:15:43.320 but does the Dalai Lama know that Saramago is a communist? 00:15:44.640,00:15:46.000 And that he doesn't believe in God, 00:15:46.080,00:15:48.760 nor will he even begin to believe in him in the next 200 years?" 00:15:49.560,00:15:54.080 And another pile here where we'll put all the Portuguese literature. 00:15:54.440,00:15:57.400 We've already put all the Central European literature there... 00:15:57.480,00:15:58.760 February 9th 00:15:58.760,00:16:01.040 At the front door, there is the container 00:16:01.120,00:16:03.240 with the books which came from Lisbon. 00:16:03.320,00:16:07.200 Boxes and crates everywhere out of which comes an occasional 00:16:07.280,00:16:10.000 forgotten object, as if somebody from back home 00:16:10.080,00:16:13.360 had amused himself by hiding memories in the crates. 00:16:13.480,00:16:14.760 A murmur saying: 00:16:14.760,00:16:18.600 We haven't forgotten you, so don't you forget us. 00:16:19.400,00:16:20.760 February 12. 00:16:20.840,00:16:24.480 Another dog showed up here around a month ago, 00:16:24.560,00:16:26.160 we don't know where it came from, 00:16:28.520,00:16:34.040 Camões was a bit wary at first, perplexed by the intruder's small size. 00:16:35.040,00:16:36.360 March 21, 00:16:36.440,00:16:38.920 we were all very happy to think that 00:16:39.000,00:16:43.280 there might be something by Siza Vieira here on Lanzarote. 00:16:43.680,00:16:47.440 It would be a good way to begin Portugal's re-conquest of the island. 00:16:47.800,00:16:49.040 March 31. 00:16:49.320,00:16:53.680 Today, we planted two olive trees in front of the library, 00:16:54.040,00:16:56.080 I doubt that, in this climate, 00:16:56.200,00:16:58.920 they'll ever attain the heights 00:16:59.080,00:17:00.840 of the quince tree in Victor Erice's film “The Quince Tree Sun”. 00:17:04.560,00:17:05.800 May 2. 00:17:05.800,00:17:08.760 I began to write the story about the elephant. 00:17:13.720,00:17:17.360 WE ALWAYS ARRIVE AT THE PLACE WHERE WE ARE EXPECTED 00:17:19.520,00:17:22.920 In time, everything in the universe fits together. 00:17:23.000,00:17:27.200 And then there's the elephant. 00:17:29.120,00:17:32.040 Solomon had no idea of what awaits him. 00:17:34.080,00:17:37.240 Listen, I'm going to talk very loudly because I don't know if you can hear me. 00:17:37.320,00:17:40.520 I can hardly hear you because of the building noise outside, 00:17:40.680,00:17:44.600 which has been going on for I don't know how many months or years! 00:17:44.680,00:17:46.600 I don't think this library will ever be finished. 00:17:46.680,00:17:48.800 Listen, we're going to give José a surprise party 00:17:49.080,00:17:51.600 for his 84th birthday in Azinhaga. 00:17:52.160,00:17:56.120 He doesn't know, but it'll be the launch of “Small Memories”, 00:17:56.200,00:17:59.080 not just the Portugal version but the Spanish one as well, 00:17:59.160,00:18:00.680 if I can finish the translation. 00:18:16.840,00:18:18.600 The village... oh, shit! 00:18:18.680,00:18:20.040 The village is called Azinhaga. 00:18:20.200,00:18:23.640 And has, so to speak, been where it is since the dawn of nationhood. 00:18:23.760,00:18:25.720 The house where I was born no longer exists, 00:18:25.920,00:18:29.400 not that it matters, because I have no memory of having lived in it. 00:18:29.400,00:18:31.040 about ever having lived there anyway. 00:18:33.080,00:18:36.400 The regime was brought down, by a military coup as expected. 00:18:36.640,00:18:39.200 I am at a loss for words to describe that day, 00:18:39.280,00:18:41.360 the troops, the combat vehicles, the happiness, 00:18:41.440,00:18:43.320 the emotional turmoil, the pure joy. 00:18:43.400,00:18:44.680 I am, at the moment, alone? 00:18:44.680,00:18:46.880 "Manual of Painting and Calligraphy" 00:18:46.960,00:18:49.320 I think this text is poorly translated, 00:18:49.400,00:18:50.600 I would never have translated it like that. 00:18:50.600,00:18:52.600 "Death with Interruption" "The Stone Raft" 00:18:52.720,00:18:54.920 "All the Names", "The Gospel". 00:18:55.000,00:18:57.800 -Jesus is slowly dying, dying. -Jesus is slowly dying, dying. 00:18:58.040,00:19:03.640 When suddenly the heavens overhead open wide and God appears, 00:19:03.800,00:19:08.360 and his voice throughout the Earth. This is my beloved Son, 00:19:08.720,00:19:11.240 in whom I am well pleased. 00:19:12.040,00:19:14.960 And Jesus realized then that he had been 00:19:14.960,00:19:17.320 brought there under false pretences, like a lamb to sacrifice, 00:19:17.400,00:19:19.240 that from the beginning his life had been heading towards this death. 00:19:19.240,00:19:21.600 From the very beginning... 00:19:22.880,00:19:26.400 And he cried out to the open heavens, where God was smiling down? 00:19:26.400,00:19:27.640 Men, 00:19:27.640,00:19:30.400 Forgive him for he knows not what he does? 00:19:36.400,00:19:39.120 It's just a tall tale, a huge hoax? 00:19:39.760,00:19:43.760 I went to church once or twice when I was 6, but I didn't... 00:19:44.800,00:19:46.440 I wasn't convinced at all. 00:19:47.160,00:19:48.880 And I went and told my mother, no, 00:19:48.960,00:19:51.640 I'm not going, I'm not going there. 00:19:52.560,00:19:54.360 I didn't go and I never went again. 00:19:54.480,00:19:56.280 I never had religious crisis, 00:19:56.280,00:19:57.880 I'm not afraid of death, 00:19:57.960,00:19:59.480 I'm not afraid of Hell, 00:19:59.720,00:20:05.680 I'm not afraid of what you might call eternal damnation, 00:20:06.640,00:20:09.640 because of my sins, I mean, what sins... 00:20:09.720,00:20:13.440 What is all this about sin? Who was it who invented sin? 00:20:14.880,00:20:20.480 Once sin had been invented, the guy who invented it had a fantastic 00:20:20.600,00:20:25.880 weapon he could use to dominate other people. 00:20:26.560,00:20:28.680 And that's what the church did. 00:20:28.880,00:20:31.480 But not so much anymore, poor guys, 00:20:31.560,00:20:34.600 they don't have half the power they used to. 00:20:34.680,00:20:37.800 It's just farce, a tragic farce. 00:20:38.840,00:20:41.120 Where is God? 00:20:42.160,00:20:46.560 They used to say he was in heaven, but heaven doesn't exist! 00:20:48.480,00:20:49.880 There is no heaven! 00:20:56.080,00:20:57.320 There's only space. 00:20:58.920,00:21:01.160 13 thousand million light years. 00:21:01.560,00:21:02.800 Imagine... 00:21:04.600,00:21:06.680 The limits of the Universe are 00:21:06.680,00:21:09.640 13 thousand 700 million light years away... 00:21:13.520,00:21:14.760 Light years! 00:21:16.840,00:21:18.120 Where's God? 00:21:23.040,00:21:25.720 If you want to believe, believe and have done with it. 00:21:27.680,00:21:31.680 I say it loud and clear, 00:21:35.240,00:21:36.720 not for me. 00:21:40.440,00:21:43.400 And remember, 83 is a good age 00:21:43.400,00:21:45.640 to begin thinking about the future, right? 00:21:46.800,00:21:51.640 I mean, you can do all kinds of stupid things in your life, 00:21:52.880,00:21:56.000 say a lot of absurd things about the Lord, 00:21:56.680,00:21:58.640 but when you get to be 83, 00:21:58.640,00:22:01.680 you should begin to be a bit more careful 00:22:01.760,00:22:03.080 about what you say. 00:22:04.080,00:22:06.600 But that doesn't change reality. 00:22:07.200,00:22:09.200 Reality continues the same as always. 00:22:12.880,00:22:15.280 We're born, we live, we die and that's it. 00:22:17.160,00:22:18.400 Nothing more. 00:22:19.600,00:22:21.240 I hope that doesn't happen. 00:22:21.320,00:22:23.320 I hope I die lucid and with my eyes open. 00:22:26.960,00:22:30.120 At least that's the way I'd like it to be. 00:22:36.960,00:22:38.280 July 7th 00:22:39.240,00:22:43.640 To feel that the end of each day is an irreparable loss. 00:22:44.440,00:22:47.040 That is probably what old age is all about. 00:23:14.560,00:23:18.280 One day, the sun disappears and it's over. 00:23:18.560,00:23:22.840 And the universe won't even know we ever existed. 00:23:24.200,00:23:28.640 The universe won't even know that Homer wrote The Iliad. 00:23:35.200,00:23:37.720 LIBRARY INAUGURATION 00:23:37.720,00:23:41.080 I would like to welcome you all to the library, 00:23:41.200,00:23:43.520 which was born from a crazy idea, 00:23:43.800,00:23:45.960 because, every time we needed a book at home, 00:23:46.040,00:23:48.120 we'd have to go out and buy it, because we could 00:23:48.120,00:23:49.360 never find it... 00:23:49.360,00:23:52.720 It wasn't a crazy idea, it was the idea of a crazy person. 00:23:56.280,00:23:59.800 Well, it wasn't exactly like that, and it wasn't very nice of you 00:23:59.880,00:24:01.560 to applaud either. 00:24:44.080,00:24:47.600 Not everyone here will be aware that João Afonso 00:24:48.320,00:24:52.160 was Zeca Afonso's nephew. 00:24:54.560,00:24:58.440 Being the nephew of a great artist doesn't mean much 00:24:58.920,00:25:01.760 or maybe nothing at all... 00:25:03.280,00:25:05.200 There's a family connection... 00:25:08.840,00:25:10.200 Talk in Spanish! 00:25:10.520,00:25:12.880 José, do you want me to do a simultaneous translation for you? 00:25:14.080,00:25:15.600 You're speaking Portuguese. 00:25:16.000,00:25:17.920 Yes, I do that sometimes. 00:25:20.480,00:25:22.080 You should all learn! 00:25:25.560,00:25:27.560 Not all of you here will be aware... 00:25:28.080,00:25:30.000 that's Spanish, isn't it? 00:25:32.360,00:25:35.240 Not all of you here will be aware that João Afonso 00:25:36.520,00:25:41.640 is the nephew of the great, unforgettable Zeca Afonso, 00:25:42.000,00:25:45.520 but what happened here 00:25:45.600,00:25:51.520 was a kind of miracle of sound, 00:25:55.120,00:25:56.760 which allows us to think, 00:25:56.840,00:25:58.640 just once in a while, 00:25:58.640,00:26:00.280 that death doesn't exist. 00:26:02.520,00:26:05.000 and... that's all. 00:26:07.240,00:26:09.200 The reception lasted 3 hours. 00:26:09.880,00:26:11.520 I got tired of smiling, 00:26:11.600,00:26:13.840 of trying to sound intelligent. 00:26:13.960,00:26:16.560 The weather is cold, overcast. 00:26:16.960,00:26:18.240 July 10th. 00:26:18.360,00:26:20.440 I climbed Blanca Mountain yesterday. 00:26:20.720,00:26:23.400 I remember thinking, while I was going up: 00:26:23.520,00:26:27.160 If I fall here and get myself killed it's all over, no more books. 00:26:27.640,00:26:29.320 I was very aware of time, 00:26:30.400,00:26:33.200 because a book can take one or two years to write, 00:26:34.440,00:26:36.600 and you don't have that much time. 00:26:36.800,00:26:38.040 Yes? 00:26:38.400,00:26:39.840 Hello, how are you? 00:26:39.840,00:26:43.760 When are the direct flights to Lisbon? Which is the best one? 00:26:45.160,00:26:47.120 Yes, because from here to Germany, 00:26:47.200,00:26:49.280 there are flights all day and every day. 00:26:49.360,00:26:50.840 And for which dates? 00:26:52.920,00:26:55.960 But how can I leave Wednesday, that's already the day after tomorrow? 00:26:56.200,00:26:58.360 I don't believe it, I was talking with my mobile upside-down! 00:26:58.520,00:27:01.160 No wonder I could hardly hear what she was saying and she couldn't hear me, 00:27:01.160,00:27:03.960 I was using it upside-down. I was holding it like this, 00:27:03.960,00:27:05.720 and she was saying “I can't hear you”. 00:27:08.480,00:27:09.760 How funny. 00:27:14.800,00:27:16.080 Oh well. 00:27:18.280,00:27:24.240 We have to go over my list of appointments. 00:27:26.040,00:27:28.080 See what we can take out? 00:27:28.400,00:27:33.880 I have to tell you that I am less and less enthusiastic 00:27:33.880,00:27:35.880 to present 00:27:36.520,00:27:38.880 a book in Azinhaga. 00:27:40.360,00:27:44.600 I mean, I don't even know anybody there anymore and each time that? 00:27:44.680,00:27:47.000 But you're not doing it for yourself, you're doing it for the village. 00:27:47.480,00:27:48.800 Why am I doing it? 00:27:48.920,00:27:51.480 You're not doing it for yourself, you're doing it for the village. 00:27:52.320,00:27:53.840 It's a gift to the village? 00:27:54.920,00:27:56.200 But the village? 00:27:56.880,00:28:00.000 The village will be so proud, like that day the library opened there. 00:28:00.440,00:28:02.040 The village will be thrilled, 00:28:02.400,00:28:06.360 people will get involved and other people will talk about your village, 00:28:06.440,00:28:07.880 and they'll like that. 00:28:09.160,00:28:10.440 No. 00:28:24.480,00:28:27.240 Yes, the phrase for the monument... 00:28:28.880,00:28:31.120 That's it, just a phrase, 00:28:31.120,00:28:33.280 "for those on the Civil War." 00:28:34.800,00:28:36.040 When I was a kid, 00:28:36.040,00:28:37.400 I had this nightmare... 00:28:37.600,00:28:39.000 terrible it was... 00:28:39.280,00:28:40.800 Which always went something like this: 00:28:40.880,00:28:45.040 I'd find myself in an enclosed space, with no door or windows, 00:28:45.640,00:28:47.360 in a triangular space... 00:28:51.520,00:28:55.120 And I'd be at one of the triangle's vertices. 00:28:55.360,00:28:58.160 And on the other side, in the distance, 00:28:58.640,00:29:00.840 I could see something on the ground, 00:29:00.960,00:29:02.920 something I could never make out clearly. 00:29:03.080,00:29:04.400 And that something, 00:29:04.480,00:29:08.760 which could have been water on the ground, or a stone... 00:29:08.880,00:29:10.280 Or both those things at the same time, 00:29:10.360,00:29:12.160 but it wasn't that... 00:29:12.560,00:29:15.120 It would begin to grow and there was some music playing, 00:29:15.240,00:29:17.920 which I could never really make out either... 00:29:18.960,00:29:21.080 And that something would grow and grow and grow... 00:29:21.160,00:29:22.680 and there was no escape. 00:29:22.760,00:29:25.840 It would grow and grow, getting closer and closer... 00:29:26.400,00:29:30.600 until, I was almost suffocating, and then, I'd wake up. 00:29:32.720,00:29:37.120 The 6-day Iberia Airline pilots' strike is due to begin at midnight tomorrow, 00:29:37.120,00:29:39.560 and 1,500 flights will be cancelled. 00:29:40.040,00:29:43.320 I'm going to ask my guests what they think about this news. 00:29:43.400,00:29:44.760 Let me introduce Pilar del Rio, 00:29:44.760,00:29:47.080 -Good morning Pilar. -Hello, Good morning. 00:29:47.080,00:29:48.800 Pilar, you are one of those most deeply affected!! 00:29:48.800,00:29:51.920 Oh God! I have, next week alone, 11 flights in one week. 00:29:51.920,00:29:53.680 Then a strike is just the right thing for you, Pilar! 00:29:53.760,00:29:56.120 You can get some rest. Thank you so much, 00:29:56.120,00:29:57.880 I will now take my leave until next season. 00:30:00.640,00:30:01.800 15th July. 00:30:02.080,00:30:06.240 Inevitably I think about my book, “Small Memories”, 00:30:06.800,00:30:09.360 long promised and long postponed, 00:30:09.440,00:30:11.160 which isn't a book of memories, 00:30:11.240,00:30:17.040 but the memory I have of myself. 00:30:18.320,00:30:21.320 ACT II THE JOURNEY 00:30:24.160,00:30:26.600 Hours are too slow. 00:30:27.320,00:30:30.320 Days are too fast. 00:31:01.880,00:31:04.360 And we now go straight to Azinhaga, Barbara. 00:31:04.440,00:31:09.920 And we can see a few images now of Saramago's arrival. 00:31:10.320,00:31:15.360 With around 1000 people Gathered, applauding. 00:31:15.800,00:31:19.040 These people were not only local inhabitants, 00:31:19.120,00:31:21.720 but guests as well... 00:31:38.680,00:31:39.960 Pilar! 00:31:47.840,00:31:49.160 When Pilar told me: 00:31:49.240,00:31:52.520 "We're thinking of having your book launch in Azinhaga" 00:31:52.600,00:31:53.880 I said: 00:31:53.960,00:31:55.320 "Oh Pilar, don't do that." 00:31:55.320,00:31:56.560 After all... 00:31:58.920,00:32:00.160 I'll tell you something... 00:32:00.240,00:32:05.320 I think that if there were fewer of you, I would have already started to cry. 00:32:07.200,00:32:11.000 But there are so many of you that I can't even cry. 00:32:13.720,00:32:16.040 I would like to inform you all that José Saramago 00:32:16.120,00:32:17.920 will be seated at this table giving autographs 00:32:18.000,00:32:20.680 and I ask you all to organize a line. 00:32:20.800,00:32:22.560 Otherwise, nobody will be able to get their book signed. 00:32:22.800,00:32:27.960 An old, abandoned factory which Saramago picked to hold his book launch. 00:32:28.360,00:32:31.440 And more than one thousand people gathered, seated and standing 00:32:31.440,00:32:33.120 around to see José Saramago up close, 00:32:33.120,00:32:34.840 to hug him, kiss him, 00:32:34.920,00:32:37.560 and, of course, to get their books signed, 00:32:37.640,00:32:40.720 as can be seen by this long line, with hundreds of people, 00:32:40.880,00:32:44.240 has a cycle come to an end? Has the author returned to his origins? 00:32:44.400,00:32:45.640 No. I mean, 00:32:45.640,00:32:47.360 I'm not sure this ends a cycle. 00:32:47.440,00:32:50.320 We can only tell when a cycle has closed after it comes to an end. 00:32:50.720,00:32:52.680 And I'm not sure It has come to an end yet. 00:32:53.960,00:32:55.760 Dad, there are still a lot of people left. 00:32:55.760,00:32:58.520 -Do you want to stop? -There's no point stopping... 00:33:00.560,00:33:02.400 J. Sicaia... could you write that? 00:33:02.640,00:33:04.320 -I'm not writing dedications. -I'm sorry, 00:33:04.400,00:33:05.640 Carry on, carry on... 00:33:05.640,00:33:07.480 You have nothing to be sorry for. 00:33:07.560,00:33:09.240 It is I who must apologies, 00:33:09.600,00:33:12.600 for things being like this, with so many people... 00:33:12.680,00:33:16.720 If I were to write dedications the line would still be at the beginning. 00:33:25.280,00:33:27.200 A long life to you! 00:33:27.320,00:33:30.640 Happy Birthday to you! 00:33:30.760,00:33:36.680 Happy Birthday dear Saramago! 00:33:37.160,00:33:40.040 A round of applause. 00:33:42.200,00:33:44.560 José, honey, go autograph your books. I'll cut. OK? 00:33:44.760,00:33:46.600 -Do you want anything to eat? -No, thank you. 00:33:46.840,00:33:48.520 Go on, go sign your books. 00:33:49.120,00:33:50.520 Can I congratulate you? 00:33:51.320,00:33:52.680 Congratulations, much happiness. Thank you. 00:33:55.680,00:34:01.120 José Saramago has, at the moment, 450 books to sign... 00:34:01.640,00:34:04.400 Our flight will last approximately 12 hours 00:34:04.520,00:34:08.720 and we will be landing at 9:30, 6 hours behind local time. 00:34:09.880,00:34:11.120 Capital Radio, 00:34:11.120,00:34:13.400 Broadcasting from Guadalajara, Jalisco. 00:34:13.480,00:34:15.160 The news with Manolo Tavares. 00:34:15.520,00:34:18.640 We have in our country, right now, the Nobel prize-winning, 00:34:18.640,00:34:20.280 Portuguese writer, José Saramago, for the opening 00:34:20.280,00:34:22.760 of the International Book Fair of Guadalajara, 2006 00:34:22.920,00:34:26.880 The Author Gabriel García Márquez, Nobel prize winner for literature. 00:34:27.520,00:34:31.240 Author José Saramago, also a Nobel prize winner for literature. 00:34:33.920,00:34:36.760 José entered Granada led by the hand of love. 00:34:37.080,00:34:39.680 Where he came upon another enormity, 00:34:40.120,00:34:41.560 the enormity of Pilar's family. 00:34:42.200,00:34:43.600 And, knowing Pilar as well as I do, 00:34:43.680,00:34:48.000 I am absolutely convinced, that there are two José Saramagos: 00:34:49.240,00:34:51.920 one José Saramago before meeting Pilar, 00:34:52.200,00:34:55.080 and another José Saramago after meeting Pilar. 00:34:57.640,00:34:59.920 Victory, victory, my part of the story is over. 00:35:01.000,00:35:02.600 I met this family... 00:35:02.840,00:35:05.040 of 15 brothers and sisters. 00:35:05.120,00:35:08.600 And me, being this quiet man, silent, melancholic, 00:35:08.880,00:35:11.520 a bit sad, as I describe myself, 00:35:11.840,00:35:15.000 suddenly saw myself surrounded by 15 barbarians, 00:35:16.360,00:35:18.920 because they are barbarians, savages! 00:35:19.760,00:35:21.560 How many nights that... 00:35:21.720,00:35:23.120 I go to bed exhausted, 00:35:24.360,00:35:26.240 convinced that I'll be able to sleep, 00:35:26.320,00:35:30.320 and their voices follow me, bellowing from the kitchen... 00:35:34.280,00:35:36.720 They are, though, all very fine people. 00:35:39.520,00:35:41.840 Do I only have five more minutes? 00:35:44.280,00:35:47.600 First of all, nobody told me how many minutes I'd have! 00:35:48.520,00:35:51.800 So they can't come and tell me now I only have five minutes left. 00:35:54.440,00:35:55.720 They'll have to wait. 00:35:57.320,00:36:02.560 Have you left anything out? Because as a reporter they tell me: 00:36:03.080,00:36:05.920 “Declaration of the Third World War, in 30 seconds”, 00:36:06.240,00:36:09.120 And so, if you are in a hurry, I'll help you. 00:36:14.560,00:36:17.640 If it were you sitting here we'd all be out on the street by now. 00:36:25.520,00:36:27.240 We have more time! 00:36:31.880,00:36:33.360 And what do we have now? 00:36:33.440,00:36:35.440 Let's talk about the play 00:36:35.560,00:36:38.440 about the reading in two voices the day after tomorrow. 00:36:39.120,00:36:40.400 Introduce yourselves. 00:36:41.840,00:36:47.600 I'm afraid it'll be too much, I see so many pages here. 00:36:48.240,00:36:50.400 The play is a recital... you don't have to memorize it 00:36:50.480,00:36:53.560 This is what the tow of us were supposed to do. 00:36:53.680,00:36:56.840 The person who copied it didn't understand it. 00:36:57.600,00:36:58.800 Alright José. 00:36:58.800,00:37:01.640 We've got to... who reads it? 00:37:02.360,00:37:03.600 Or isn't it read? 00:37:03.720,00:37:05.320 José, we'll see about that later... 00:37:05.400,00:37:07.480 -What was the time again? -At 3h30. 00:37:09.240,00:37:13.200 We'll talk to the writer at 3h:30, okay? 00:37:13.600,00:37:15.800 The guy who conceived the whole thing. 00:37:16.280,00:37:19.800 You called me here for a work meeting and I'm... 00:37:19.880,00:37:22.120 No, no, only for us to see about the time... 00:37:22.280,00:37:24.960 -To schedule the rehearsals. -It's the schedule for the rehearsals. 00:37:25.280,00:37:27.080 As this worries me, it is only natural that I say something. 00:37:27.160,00:37:28.400 Of course. 00:37:28.560,00:37:29.840 But if this isn't the right time, I won't say anything more. 00:37:29.920,00:37:32.760 Each one of us knows our part and it'd be better 00:37:32.760,00:37:34.520 if we didn't interfere with other people's territory. 00:37:34.600,00:37:36.520 But I don't want to interfere, Pilar! 00:37:36.960,00:37:39.120 -I don't interfere. -We have a meeting at eight tonight... 00:37:39.640,00:37:42.240 What time can you make it to the rehearsal? 00:37:42.320,00:37:46.280 At 12 tomorrow, my husband has a press conference. 00:37:47.440,00:37:49.320 There's another one at 3:00... 00:37:49.480,00:37:51.280 at 5, a doctor's appointment... 00:37:51.360,00:37:53.960 José you don't have to come to my conference! 00:37:54.600,00:37:56.120 Go to the rehearsal. 00:37:56.200,00:38:00.080 I have ideas for books, and she has ideas for life. 00:38:01.360,00:38:03.920 And I don't know which is more important. 00:38:04.680,00:38:06.400 Now that's nice! 00:38:06.520,00:38:08.080 Pilar, come here! 00:38:09.240,00:38:11.760 I just said something beautiful. 00:38:11.840,00:38:15.200 -What is it, dear? -That I have ideas for books... 00:38:15.560,00:38:18.080 -Yes. -And you have ideas for life! 00:38:18.160,00:38:19.360 That's nice! 00:38:19.360,00:38:21.600 And I don't know which is more important! 00:38:22.520,00:38:24.440 -What do you think? -I'm not so sure. 00:38:24.440,00:38:25.720 I think life! 00:38:27.200,00:38:30.520 Well, so I'll just have to keep to my place. 00:38:31.880,00:38:33.240 You have an interview waiting for you now. 00:38:33.440,00:38:35.880 Hold on, I'm going to see how things are. 00:38:36.000,00:38:37.280 -An interview with who? -Marisol. 00:38:39.160,00:38:43.120 Soon, dead photographers, reporters, 00:38:47.520,00:38:51.760 and as nobody is going to think I'm the assassin, 00:38:51.840,00:38:55.120 as long as there are reporters, I'm going to continue killing them. 00:38:55.240,00:38:57.200 -C'mon, let's go. -Most of all, photographers. 00:38:57.640,00:39:01.720 So begin killing them then, television is waiting. 00:39:04.840,00:39:08.760 Do you all think that at this point in life 00:39:09.000,00:39:11.440 anyone has something to say... 00:39:11.840,00:39:13.360 that is worthwhile? 00:39:13.960,00:39:17.720 This phrase here is interesting, 00:39:18.280,00:39:22.560 “I live disquietly and I write to disquiet”, 00:39:23.600,00:39:26.240 I said that I don't know how many years ago 00:39:26.240,00:39:28.720 but I had forgotten that I had said that. 00:39:28.720,00:39:32.960 So I'm going to recycle it, and use it again. 00:39:46.080,00:39:47.400 Tell me when. 00:39:47.800,00:39:49.080 Are we recording? OK. 00:39:50.480,00:39:53.160 José, if you could give us a greeting 00:39:53.480,00:39:56.560 for the program, as it'll be broadcast at Christmas. 00:39:56.680,00:39:59.400 If you could just greet Mexico in general... 00:40:00.360,00:40:03.440 But with this cube here, so they can see it. 00:40:04.440,00:40:05.680 What should I say, Pilar? 00:40:07.600,00:40:10.400 That Christmas should be all year round... 00:40:10.960,00:40:12.400 Because it's a Christmas greeting, isn't it? 00:40:12.480,00:40:13.720 Yes, for Christmas, yes. 00:40:13.920,00:40:16.520 But, I hate Christmas, how can I say that? 00:40:22.360,00:40:23.760 November 28. 00:40:24.000,00:40:26.040 Between 9:30 in the morning 00:40:26.160,00:40:29.040 and 1 o'clock in the afternoon, 4 interviews. 00:40:29.880,00:40:32.480 I just can't understand why in the world they're so interested 00:40:32.560,00:40:35.000 in declarations they've heard so many times, over and over again! 00:40:37.920,00:40:41.160 -Can I take a picture with you? -Take your picture. 00:40:45.520,00:40:47.080 Thank you and good luck. 00:40:47.480,00:40:49.360 Tomorrow, at the Diana Theatre, 00:40:49.480,00:40:51.840 "Death with Interruptions" 00:40:51.920,00:40:55.000 with Gael García Bernal and the author José Saramago. 00:40:55.000,00:40:56.280 Don't miss it. 00:40:56.280,00:40:58.640 The proceeds from ticket sales will go to help children with cancer. 00:40:58.960,00:41:03.120 ... Which means that for all those people who should already be dead, 00:41:03.240,00:41:05.360 the candle of life will only go out when 00:41:05.440,00:41:08.240 the last toll of the bell fades out at midnight. 00:41:09.280,00:41:11.480 Nobody died the following day! 00:41:11.680,00:41:12.920 Beautiful! 00:41:13.920,00:41:15.920 Wouldn't it be nice if that were true, huh Pilar? 00:41:16.160,00:41:17.400 But it's not? 00:41:17.400,00:41:19.600 All I can say is that I'm not very fascinated 00:41:19.680,00:41:21.400 by the idea of straightening my relations with death. 00:41:21.400,00:41:24.080 But as she is inevitable the best thing you can do... 00:41:24.560,00:41:26.000 Is sleep with her? 00:41:26.000,00:41:27.280 To get used to the idea? 00:41:27.400,00:41:29.160 Well, nothing would happen... 00:41:29.680,00:41:31.720 No, the worst part is that everything would happen. 00:41:31.920,00:41:35.640 The worst part is that everything would happen, a pain in the ass, dear... 00:41:36.080,00:41:38.840 And now I have a press conference, no more, no less. 00:41:38.920,00:41:40.200 How nice! 00:41:40.920,00:41:42.920 I just came from a promo event... 00:41:43.000,00:41:45.320 And from various other places... 00:41:46.360,00:41:49.080 -Hour long conferences, huh? -Yeah. They're unbearable. 00:41:49.200,00:41:52.320 The question that most? that I can't stand... 00:41:52.400,00:41:53.720 is: “what do you feel?” 00:41:53.800,00:41:55.160 "what do you feel about being here?" 00:41:55.240,00:41:56.520 "What do you feel...?" 00:41:56.520,00:41:58.440 What do you feel about being in Guadalajara today? 00:41:59.200,00:42:00.840 What do you feel being here? 00:42:00.920,00:42:02.200 What do you feel?! Weird. 00:42:02.600,00:42:04.480 Well, I guess, I don't know... 00:42:04.920,00:42:06.240 it's different, no? 00:42:06.560,00:42:07.800 I don't think so... 00:42:07.800,00:42:10.040 And when they ask you... 00:42:10.040,00:42:12.080 “Can I take a picture with you?” 00:42:12.520,00:42:13.760 It's awful! 00:42:14.560,00:42:16.400 I could say no, 00:42:16.480,00:42:19.720 "Look, I don't have time right now", whatever, 00:42:19.840,00:42:21.120 but, well, I do it. 00:42:21.760,00:42:23.840 But I don't do it to be nice, 00:42:23.920,00:42:25.440 I do it because... 00:42:25.800,00:42:27.320 How can I say to someone: 00:42:27.400,00:42:30.480 "No. Don't take the picture”. 00:42:30.560,00:42:31.800 For what reason? 00:42:33.040,00:42:34.640 José, a picture! 00:42:37.560,00:42:41.640 Please, look at the camera, just a photo! 00:42:43.800,00:42:50.080 We live disquietly and write to disquiet. 00:42:50.400,00:42:52.720 We do not want inactive readers, 00:42:52.960,00:42:55.200 we do not want conformist readers, 00:42:55.640,00:42:57.960 we do not want resigned readers, 00:42:58.080,00:43:01.240 I don't want to live off the money of these types of readers. 00:43:01.400,00:43:04.040 I want to live off the money of the other readers. 00:43:04.360,00:43:06.320 ...made me think, sing, 00:43:06.400,00:43:09.360 dance, recite, recite poetry, 00:43:09.640,00:43:12.080 "Jesuza when are you going to get married? 00:43:12.360,00:43:14.120 And she answered on the spot: 00:43:14.280,00:43:17.760 "I'm married to a woman and I'm really happy." 00:43:18.000,00:43:21.880 Decisive acts of the 16th Latin-American Literary prize... 00:43:24.280,00:43:26.760 In the city of Guadalajara, Jalisco, 00:43:27.160,00:43:31.760 The jury is meeting for the 16th edition of the prize-giving? 00:43:32.160,00:43:36.720 ...the creativity has reinvented the forms of journalistic short story? 00:43:36.920,00:43:39.800 the literary essay, contemporary thinking... 00:43:39.960,00:43:44.920 the riches of popular culture, the spectacle of urban modernization, 00:43:45.080,00:43:50.880 and codes of power and mentality over the 40 years of its existence. 00:43:51.800,00:43:57.200 MIGUEL RÍOS' CONCERT 00:44:15.120,00:44:20.440 A symbolic moment in which important personalities hand over this check 00:44:20.560,00:44:23.120 to help benefit children with cancer. 00:44:23.200,00:44:24.880 We thank you all for this moment: 00:44:26.160,00:44:29.960 Gael how do you feel about being back home in Guadalajara? 00:44:30.800,00:44:33.680 All I can say is that I am happy to be here 00:44:33.760,00:44:36.360 acting alongside you, “master". 00:44:38.320,00:44:41.800 All I can say is that the “master” is a great actor, 00:44:42.960,00:44:44.320 ...most definitely! 00:44:44.440,00:44:46.320 And like all great actors, will deny it. 00:44:46.720,00:44:48.080 Attention. 00:44:48.200,00:44:50.600 This is the third curtain call. 00:44:50.880,00:44:52.160 We will begin. 00:44:53.000,00:44:55.840 Nobody died the following day. 00:44:56.880,00:45:00.960 Being so different to the usual norms of life, 00:45:01.040,00:45:03.760 it caused enormous anxiety among the spirits... 00:45:04.200,00:45:07.920 This, my message, I undersign with the name 00:45:08.320,00:45:10.480 I am generally known by: 00:45:11.320,00:45:12.600 Death. 00:45:21.600,00:45:23.000 Gael, I love you! 00:45:32.080,00:45:35.120 When I come back from these trips next time. 00:45:35.200,00:45:37.440 I'll do everything... The face? 00:45:37.440,00:45:40.280 -Massage? -Massage, I mean, really! 00:45:40.440,00:45:41.760 A body massage will be enough. 00:45:56.280,00:46:00.120 PILAR'S BIRTHDAY 00:46:02.440,00:46:05.240 INTERVIEW TO THE NATIONAL RADIO OF SPAIN 00:46:05.360,00:46:07.640 INTERVIEW - TV YLE 00:46:08.040,00:46:10.240 TÀPIES AND JOSÉ'S BOOK PRESENTATION 00:46:18.560,00:46:22.360 José Saramago is the author of a vast and intense literary production 00:46:22.440,00:46:25.480 and the first Nobel Laureate in Portuguese literature, 00:46:25.560,00:46:28.000 one of the world's most widely spoken languages. 00:46:28.080,00:46:29.560 And because of this, we request he be granted 00:46:29.640,00:46:32.120 the title of Doctor Honoris Causa. 00:46:40.080,00:46:43.040 -Are you OK? Feeling alright? -Me? Yes, yes... I'm fine. 00:46:43.120,00:46:44.680 After 3 hours of interview... 00:46:44.760,00:46:46.760 I only say this because of your heart, nothing else. 00:46:47.480,00:46:52.040 “On the 29th June 2007 in Lisbon, in the notary public's presence, 00:46:52.120,00:46:56.240 the grantor, José de Sousa Saramago, hereby institutes, 00:46:56.320,00:46:58.040 by means of the present deed, 00:46:58.120,00:47:01.800 the foundation to be henceforth called the José Saramago Foundation.” 00:47:01.800,00:47:04.520 DEED OF THE FOUNDATION JOSÉ SARAMAGO 00:47:04.520,00:47:06.080 It's done, it exists. 00:47:07.120,00:47:08.360 It was just born. 00:47:08.680,00:47:11.960 I was at the bank today and suddenly realized that I had become poor. 00:47:12.040,00:47:14.880 I mean, my accounts had been mine up to now. 00:47:15.600,00:47:17.880 Suddenly, it all goes to the Foundation, 00:47:18.400,00:47:20.920 and the only two people who can administer them 00:47:21.680,00:47:25.320 are: Mrs. Dona Pilar - “presidenta” in the feminine! 00:47:25.640,00:47:28.400 and Mr. Sucena who is General Director. 00:47:28.480,00:47:30.080 I can't utter a peep! 00:47:31.680,00:47:33.880 Which country doesn't have an extradition agreement with Portugal? 00:47:34.040,00:47:35.960 And they insist I still keep working... 00:47:36.960,00:47:39.160 To make sure the tit doesn't run dry... 00:47:39.240,00:47:42.600 Just kidding, but the other day we were at home and Pilar... 00:47:42.760,00:47:45.840 We were talking about various things and at one point Pilar asked me: 00:47:45.920,00:47:48.200 “But, tell me then, what do you want me to do?" 00:47:49.600,00:47:52.040 And although I had never thought about it before, 00:47:53.080,00:47:56.120 I had a ready answer: 00:47:57.400,00:47:58.640 "Continue me”. 00:48:03.520,00:48:07.640 Yesterday I said that I hadn't realized how tiring the trip to America had been. 00:48:07.840,00:48:11.560 It was only afterwards that I realized. But we're not going to rest. 00:48:11.920,00:48:16.880 José is going to write his book, and I'm going to reorganize 00:48:16.960,00:48:19.800 all the foundation's pending issues and draw up the agenda 00:48:19.880,00:48:21.440 for the last quarter. 00:48:21.520,00:48:24.240 The word “rest” is not a part of our vocabulary. 00:48:25.120,00:48:29.560 This is something I would like to say and make very clear, 00:48:30.320,00:48:31.920 because a lot of people, 00:48:32.040,00:48:34.240 (and increasingly this annoys me more and more) 00:48:34.600,00:48:36.000 come up and say: 00:48:36.080,00:48:41.200 “Well, Saramago is getting on in years and should slow down a bit, 00:48:41.320,00:48:44.160 and that he's tired, and I don't know what else” 00:48:44.240,00:48:45.880 And I say: OK, let me ask you. 00:48:45.960,00:48:47.840 What do you think he should do? 00:48:47.960,00:48:54.400 For Saramago to sit with a stripe blanket over his legs? 00:48:55.640,00:48:56.920 Some people would like that. 00:48:57.000,00:48:59.440 But he's not going to do it. What do they want? 00:48:59.920,00:49:04.040 For me to be more domesticated, stay at home and wash the dishes? 00:49:04.120,00:49:06.680 Well that's not going to happen either! 00:49:07.640,00:49:13.480 If we completely exhaust our energy one day, 00:49:13.880,00:49:17.680 we sleep, get our strength back and continue forging ahead. 00:49:17.920,00:49:21.400 And we have eliminated the word “tired”, as there are already 00:49:21.480,00:49:23.760 so many young people who are tired, who were born tired 00:49:23.760,00:49:25.440 and spend the whole day tired. 00:49:25.640,00:49:30.320 Honestly! We have all eternity, 00:49:31.320,00:49:35.040 A concept that is hard even to conceive, to rest. 00:49:36.280,00:49:39.880 What do we have to do today? Something at the village... great! 00:49:40.240,00:49:45.120 The day before yesterday where were we, with four heads of state... Great! 00:49:45.520,00:49:49.200 And then the next, to travel grieving because your mother died 00:49:49.320,00:49:50.800 and you were unable to arrive in time. 00:49:50.800,00:49:52.440 It's all part of life. 00:49:55.320,00:49:58.600 “Mail for the “tribe” on Friday the 13th 00:49:58.680,00:50:00.920 most of the tribe will be arriving. 00:50:01.000,00:50:04.760 On Sunday the 15th we will inaugurate a park called “Small Memoirs” 00:50:04.840,00:50:07.000 because mamma was very happy there. 00:50:07.760,00:50:10.360 On her patron saint's day there will be a surprise: 00:50:10.360,00:50:12.720 José and I are going to take our wedding vows again. 00:50:12.800,00:50:14.440 It might sound like a mere formality but it isn't. 00:50:14.600,00:50:15.800 We had promised mamma. 00:50:15.880,00:50:18.200 She would have liked to be present... 00:50:18.400,00:50:20.320 We arrived a couple of months too late, 00:50:20.320,00:50:22.280 but we're finally here, that's what matter. 00:50:26.120,00:50:28.160 We're almost there, it's there up ahead. 00:50:30.000,00:50:31.240 Mamma has died. 00:50:31.360,00:50:34.080 PILAR'S MOM VILLAGE 00:50:34.080,00:50:36.040 Oh Lord, glory of heaven, 00:50:36.480,00:50:40.920 we beseech thy kindness in gathering 00:50:41.200,00:50:43.520 into your fold your daughter Carmen, my mother. 00:50:43.720,00:50:49.720 Here there are a few of my brothers and sisters who aren't very religious... 00:50:49.880,00:50:51.120 Let's leave it like that? 00:50:51.120,00:50:54.960 Our mamma sitting silently circled by her angels, that was her world, 00:50:55.040,00:50:57.200 and for this reason she contrasted so much with us! 00:50:57.440,00:51:00.840 noisy, rebellious, lefties, trouble makers, drinkers, smokers, charlatans. 00:51:00.840,00:51:03.360 Mamma took with her a very important part of our past, 00:51:03.440,00:51:05.800 it will be hard, of course, to learn how to live without mamma. 00:51:19.760,00:51:21.000 July 15. 00:51:21.600,00:51:25.880 God doesn't need man for anything, except to be God. 00:51:27.000,00:51:29.680 Each man that dies is a death of God. 00:51:30.160,00:51:34.440 And when the last man dies, God will resuscitate no more. 00:51:44.280,00:51:48.640 You drew in your horse and came close to me 00:51:48.800,00:51:51.440 and never in my life 00:51:51.520,00:51:57.160 have I seen such green eyes. 00:51:57.160,00:51:58.320 Let's sing another. 00:51:58.560,00:52:01.080 Another pretty one she liked. 00:52:01.560,00:52:04.160 Mamma! Mamma! 00:52:05.320,00:52:07.600 Eugenia de Montijo! 00:52:08.200,00:52:12.360 What a pity, such a pity that you're leaving Spain 00:52:12.680,00:52:15.160 to become a queen. 00:52:15.280,00:52:17.880 What a pity, such a pity? 00:52:17.960,00:52:19.920 A round of applause for mamma! 00:52:25.480,00:52:27.560 My mother would be very happy here today. 00:52:27.640,00:52:31.520 And I'd like to add that Paco Ibañez's mother would be too. 00:52:31.600,00:52:37.080 Paco Ibañez's mother was a Basque woman and as you all know there is a 00:52:37.280,00:52:39.040 sort of matriarchal society in the Basque country. 00:52:39.240,00:52:40.760 To hell with the Basques! 00:52:42.400,00:52:45.320 Well, if it bothers anyone, let me be impertinent here, 00:52:45.440,00:52:46.920 feel free to leave, 00:52:47.200,00:52:51.760 as this ceremony is for human beings, who respect and understand each other. 00:52:52.440,00:52:53.840 But if anybody is bothered, 00:52:53.920,00:52:58.200 someone in this place called Spain with 5 different nationalities, 00:52:58.320,00:53:02.680 with 20, 17 nationalities and 4 languages they can leave 00:53:03.160,00:53:06.960 because all the languages in this country are Spanish languages! 00:53:07.200,00:53:09.200 And the Basque country is Spain! 00:53:10.720,00:53:15.320 And if you like, we will make this night a tribute 00:53:16.080,00:53:18.480 to all the mothers who have already gone before us. 00:53:18.560,00:53:20.240 Because they gave us life, right? What do you think? 00:53:20.600,00:53:25.640 This world is a road leading to another which is home 00:53:25.880,00:53:28.120 with no sorrow 00:53:28.280,00:53:30.600 but we should have the good sense 00:53:30.600,00:53:35.160 to make the journey without error 00:53:35.680,00:53:38.200 the journey begins when we are born, 00:53:38.360,00:53:41.560 walk while we live, 00:53:47.520,00:53:53.760 so when we die, we rest. 00:53:59.480,00:54:01.200 36 degrees 00:54:01.280,00:54:05.960 and now Andaluzia Music Radio gives you, for all of you in love. 00:54:42.800,00:54:44.040 Pilar and José, 00:54:44.560,00:54:49.000 our words begin here and here they should end. 00:54:49.800,00:54:52.720 I say Pilar and José and I speak of love, 00:54:52.920,00:54:55.600 of the verb, of greater words. 00:54:56.120,00:54:59.000 In Pilar and José's love story, 00:54:59.080,00:55:00.880 there is room for us all, 00:55:01.120,00:55:03.240 and what I mean is: Pilar and José, yes we love you! 00:55:06.600,00:55:10.320 The civil code states that the spouse's rights and obligations are as follows: 00:55:10.560,00:55:13.400 Husband and wife should mutually respect and help each other, 00:55:13.520,00:55:15.200 The married couple must live together 00:55:15.320,00:55:17.640 and swear fidelity and come to each other's aid. 00:55:21.840,00:55:25.320 José, do you take Pilar as your lawful wedded wife? 00:55:26.440,00:55:27.720 I do. 00:55:29.480,00:55:31.840 Pilar, do you take José as your lawful wedded husband? 00:55:32.360,00:55:33.600 Oh lord, of course! 00:55:33.760,00:55:37.080 that being so, José and Pilar, I, as president of the Castril town hall, 00:55:37.160,00:55:38.400 declare you man and wife. 00:55:38.880,00:55:40.240 Can we kiss? 00:55:55.080,00:55:56.720 Because if I throw and get it wrong. 00:55:58.760,00:56:00.080 For whoever wants it! 00:56:02.600,00:56:04.680 -Long live the newlyweds! -Hurrah! 00:56:04.680,00:56:07.040 -Long live the newlyweds! -Hurrah! 00:56:09.160,00:56:11.200 This one has two dates on it. 00:56:12.000,00:56:16.920 The date we met, and then that of our wedding. 00:56:17.320,00:56:20.840 She called me, introduced herself and said: 00:56:20.920,00:56:22.800 "I am Pilar Del Rio, reporter, 00:56:23.720,00:56:27.600 I am a big fan of yours and as I am going to Lisbon 00:56:27.720,00:56:32.480 would like to meet you personally, if you are free". 00:56:33.720,00:56:35.800 -And that's what happened. -Oh yeah? 00:56:35.800,00:56:39.080 She didn't say she wanted an interview, only that she wanted to meet you. 00:56:39.200,00:56:42.800 No, no? there was no interview, never was. 00:56:44.120,00:56:47.840 And when she showed up, and I didn't know it was her, 00:56:49.160,00:56:52.560 she came walking in my direction, and I thought to myself, 00:56:53.720,00:56:55.960 wow.. now that's something?! 00:56:56.080,00:56:57.960 And you never thought of having kids? 00:56:58.960,00:57:03.560 At the beginning yes, but 63 is 63. 00:57:04.280,00:57:07.080 So you didn't want to have kids. 00:57:08.400,00:57:10.920 it would just complicate our lives. 00:57:12.160,00:57:16.840 For me, I think that reason should guide our will. 00:57:17.960,00:57:21.960 This seems to be the coldest, the strongest thing one can say. 00:57:22.240,00:57:26.200 I think we are rational beings and we have an obligation to be rational. 00:57:26.280,00:57:29.240 And never let ourselves be guided by instinct. 00:57:29.440,00:57:32.440 Or, in other words, I refuse to cry, 00:57:33.680,00:57:36.000 to let myself get dissatisfied and depressed. 00:57:36.080,00:57:39.920 Oh, depression exists, yes, but we can take 00:57:39.920,00:57:42.080 a couple of pills and get down to work. Period. 00:57:43.560,00:57:45.560 I'm in favor of pharmaceuticals. 00:57:47.080,00:57:52.520 A whole life of pain, and now we have drugs to help us get over them 00:57:53.000,00:57:56.000 and then the gurus come along and say: “No... they're bad for you!” 00:57:56.240,00:57:58.120 No, what's bad for you is being sick! 00:57:58.360,00:58:00.000 We have to be less dramatic. 00:58:00.840,00:58:03.120 Especially those of us are privileged. 00:58:03.800,00:58:07.720 I cannot? I cannot allow myself, 00:58:08.040,00:58:12.080 the luxury of being desperate, 00:58:12.080,00:58:13.960 or hopeless, or sad. 00:58:15.040,00:58:16.360 Because I have everything. 00:58:16.480,00:58:20.600 Furthermore, I have the strength to fight, 00:58:21.560,00:58:22.880 which is the greatest privilege of all. 00:58:23.080,00:58:24.320 Canal Sur Radio 00:58:24.320,00:58:25.560 Hello, and good morning, Pilar, 00:58:25.560,00:58:26.840 where are we speaking from? 00:58:26.840,00:58:28.760 From Finland where I was walking on water. 00:58:28.880,00:58:30.160 Like Christ! 00:58:30.320,00:58:33.000 I was walking on frozen water, which is easier. 00:58:33.120,00:58:36.080 I've got something in common with Christ, I don't like the weak. 00:58:36.360,00:58:38.720 -I champion passion. -I can tell, Pilar. 00:58:38.720,00:58:39.920 Let's talk about the quotas. 00:58:40.000,00:58:42.800 Ok, let's talk about them, because enough is enough. 00:58:42.880,00:58:44.760 50% of men and 50% of women? 00:58:44.840,00:58:46.040 100% of women, 00:58:46.440,00:58:49.600 so we can save what they have destroyed. 00:59:11.120,00:59:15.160 The officer talks on the phone 00:59:15.240,00:59:20.160 and they then want to find a guilty party, why? 00:59:20.760,00:59:22.400 Because they need to. 00:59:22.680,00:59:26.480 They need someone who can be held responsible. 00:59:29.320,00:59:30.560 And the last one. 00:59:36.360,00:59:38.080 What is a writer's duty? 00:59:38.520,00:59:39.800 To write. 00:59:40.920,00:59:44.720 A writer is also a citzen. 00:59:45.520,00:59:48.240 To intervene in society as the citizen he is. 00:59:49.560,00:59:52.160 -What do we do now? -I think we're going to have lunch. 00:59:52.160,00:59:55.440 -Another journalist is coming now. -Another one? 00:59:55.800,00:59:58.400 Another one, from the Helsingin Sanomat newspaper, 00:59:58.400,01:00:00.760 a famous newspaper. 01:00:00.760,01:00:02.680 -Now? -Yes, yes, now. 01:00:03.320,01:00:04.600 He's here already! 01:00:04.960,01:00:08.200 Brief answers, the shorter the better for everyone. 01:00:08.560,01:00:12.120 And José has to have a break since he didn't sleep very well last night, 01:00:13.000,01:00:14.520 and rest a bit before 4:30?, 01:00:14.600,01:00:17.120 4:30 at the bookstore? A signing session... 01:00:30.600,01:00:34.280 PRESIDENT OF FINLAND 01:00:38.040,01:00:39.920 We thank you for your patience. 01:00:40.160,01:00:43.480 Our literary guest has been most patient, 01:00:45.880,01:00:50.000 If you have more than one book, don't hesitate to ask 01:00:50.160,01:00:55.600 and he'll willingly autograph them all. 01:01:04.840,01:01:07.280 PREMIER OF THE OPERA "BALTASAR AND BLIMINDA" 01:01:12.520,01:01:14.800 INTERVIEW 01:01:17.160,01:01:18.520 LECTURE FOR UNIVERSITY 01:01:18.600,01:01:19.960 TAMMI PUBLICHER 01:01:20.160,01:01:21.520 SPAIN 01:01:23.520,01:01:25.520 LECTURE: THE CYBERSPACE AS PUBLIC SPHERE 01:01:27.320,01:01:31.080 SHORT FILM PREMIERE: "THE BIGGEST FLOWER IN THE WORLD" 01:01:37.440,01:01:43.320 FUTURE JOSÉ SARAMAGO FOUNDATION HEADQUARTERS 01:01:43.440,01:01:45.440 INTERVIEW 01:01:45.520,01:01:47.960 TRIBUTE TO SIZA VIEIRA 01:01:55.640,01:01:58.680 AUTOGRAPH SESSION 01:02:00.240,01:02:02.360 SPAIN 01:02:05.760,01:02:09.400 TRIBUTE TO POLANCO 01:02:09.600,01:02:14.440 MEETING THE VICTIMS OF TERRORISM 01:02:23.400,01:02:25.440 What is happening today... 01:02:27.080,01:02:28.920 is in someway... 01:02:34.280,01:02:36.840 The universal truths... 01:02:37.160,01:02:38.400 They could... 01:02:39.560,01:02:40.760 No. 01:02:40.760,01:02:42.480 Not the universal truths, no. 01:02:43.640,01:02:44.800 Plural. 01:02:45.000,01:02:47.240 The plural truths... I'm sorry, 01:02:47.480,01:02:49.440 it's just that I am so tired. Thank you Pilar. 01:02:55.560,01:02:57.840 I haven't had a holiday for over 20 years. 01:02:59.640,01:03:02.880 "Ah! And why? Why do you work so much?" 01:03:03.440,01:03:05.760 Because time presses. 01:03:06.320,01:03:10.520 And when time presses a feeling of urgency arises. 01:03:10.680,01:03:14.280 Not because one person can save the world through his writing, 01:03:14.560,01:03:17.480 He doesn't even know if he can save himself. 01:03:18.360,01:03:22.600 He simply has to do what he has to do. 01:03:28.280,01:03:33.040 Democracy is there, as if it were a kind of saint on a pedestal. 01:03:38.280,01:03:42.360 Why would you want God the Universe? 01:03:42.680,01:03:45.280 What is the point of the Universe in practice? 01:03:46.600,01:03:48.480 a herd of lost sheep 01:03:48.680,01:03:53.400 Removing someone you don't like and putting someone you'd like. 01:04:00.600,01:04:04.800 The Universe will never know that Homer wrote the Iliad. 01:04:15.840,01:04:18.000 8, Kyoto 01:04:19.240,01:04:20.720 25, Lisbon 01:04:21.920,01:04:24.680 José Saramago is in our city of Buenos Aires, 01:04:24.760,01:04:28.320 visibly debilitated to present the Clarin Award... 01:04:28.640,01:04:31.680 This way of living begins to seem absurd to me. 01:04:33.480,01:04:35.080 9, return to Madrid. 01:04:35.160,01:04:38.440 We'll be counting on Saramago's presence here tomorrow. 01:04:38.720,01:04:41.120 It would look very bad if the person being paid 01:04:43.000,01:04:45.280 It's true, a virus is going around... 01:04:45.360,01:04:50.120 but Saramago is really strong, and he will show up. 01:04:50.120,01:04:53.880 Even if to do so, he has to come in a wheelchair like in Argentina. 01:04:56.080,01:04:58.680 But it does start to worry me... 01:04:59.960,01:05:02.880 After 11 hours on a flight to Buenos Aires, 01:05:04.240,01:05:06.520 José arrived completely dehydrated. 01:05:06.680,01:05:08.360 It is very brutal. 01:05:08.480,01:05:11.280 These trips are very brutal. Non-stop... 01:05:11.680,01:05:16.160 It's just... I don't know how many trips we've made to America this year. 01:05:16.440,01:05:17.720 It's insane! 01:05:18.400,01:05:19.760 The hospital is here... 01:05:20.120,01:05:21.920 We could go on ahead a bit. 01:05:22.960,01:05:25.680 Afterwards, we'll come out at the emergency exit. 01:05:26.120,01:05:30.000 JOSÉ'S BIRTHDAY 01:05:30.680,01:05:32.800 My mother and my queen, 01:05:33.080,01:05:35.080 here I am on my way to Spain 01:05:35.760,01:05:37.680 from where I will never return. 01:05:46.280,01:05:48.600 And if you allow me, I'd like to say that 01:05:48.680,01:05:52.360 at this moment, José Saramago has lost his voice, 01:05:52.440,01:05:55.040 and finds it difficult to speak, but, in any case, he will take 01:05:55.120,01:05:56.880 a few seconds just to thank you all. 01:05:56.960,01:06:00.000 Well, let us see if he can tell you himself, speaking quietly. 01:06:02.080,01:06:03.360 Well, 01:06:05.680,01:06:07.520 if all people of good faith, 01:06:09.880,01:06:14.280 if all lovers of beauty, 01:06:16.960,01:06:18.400 if all those 01:06:20.400,01:06:23.680 lovers of the fair and the honest 01:06:25.760,01:06:29.640 could unite their forces 01:06:32.400,01:06:35.080 against the barbarism in the world, 01:06:37.240,01:06:38.880 the world would be able 01:06:40.760,01:06:43.240 to dignify man 01:06:43.240,01:06:45.120 as human beings that we are. 01:06:47.120,01:06:48.360 And perhaps 01:06:50.160,01:06:51.480 maybe... 01:06:52.800,01:06:54.400 could have a future. 01:06:56.760,01:06:58.280 Thank you all so much. 01:07:10.160,01:07:11.400 Pilar... 01:07:13.960,01:07:16.200 -Happy birthday to you... -No, please no, no... 01:07:17.240,01:07:19.920 You can't imagine how much this bothers him. 01:07:21.680,01:07:23.200 It would be better not to. 01:07:27.480,01:07:28.680 No Lisbon... 01:07:28.680,01:07:30.240 No, no, no. 01:07:32.720,01:07:33.880 We have to get back to our nest. 01:07:41.600,01:07:43.720 17, trip to Lisbon, cancelled. 01:07:44.280,01:07:47.720 18, José's official birthday in Lisbon, cancelled. 01:07:48.320,01:07:50.480 19, trip to Évora, cancelled. 01:07:50.840,01:07:52.760 20, return to Lanzarote. 01:07:57.480,01:07:59.000 November, 20. 01:07:59.200,01:08:00.800 Return to Lanzarote. 01:08:01.200,01:08:04.360 A very intense feeling of being back home. 01:08:05.640,01:08:07.480 23, Lanzarote. 01:08:07.760,01:08:10.440 The opening of the exhibition "The Consistency of Dreams" 01:08:10.520,01:08:12.640 about the life and works of José. 01:08:12.800,01:08:14.520 -And so what do we do now? -We'll speak tomorrow, OK? 01:08:14.920,01:08:17.560 I guess so, nobody will be here early tomorrow... 01:08:17.680,01:08:19.840 It'll be very quiet, and the light is beautiful. 01:08:19.960,01:08:23.120 And so, Violante, we're about to start a very special week, 01:08:23.200,01:08:26.160 in your father's life and our Nobel laureate. 01:08:26.680,01:08:29.880 How do you think José will react to this exhibition? 01:08:32.000,01:08:35.560 I think he will be very, very moved. 01:08:36.800,01:08:38.920 I'm convinced he will be, emotionally. 01:08:39.000,01:08:40.560 I haven't seen the exhibition. 01:08:41.040,01:08:44.080 He saw it being prepared, but with everything that has been going on, 01:08:44.160,01:08:46.200 I'm sure he hasn't seen anything either. 01:08:46.280,01:08:48.080 From what I can tell, it seems to be rather remarkable. 01:08:48.160,01:08:49.400 It is shocking... 01:08:49.920,01:08:51.160 Shocking. 01:08:52.120,01:08:55.840 That his own homeland is the country 01:08:57.600,01:09:00.600 would almost be... 01:09:02.480,01:09:03.720 the one that mistreat him. 01:09:05.800,01:09:09.200 It is amazing that this exhibition, this work, 01:09:09.880,01:09:11.320 about his work... 01:09:11.800,01:09:13.120 was put on in Spain. 01:09:14.560,01:09:16.800 We're on our way to the exhibition right now. 01:09:16.920,01:09:18.920 Well, tomorrow I'll be with the Minister of Culture 01:09:19.000,01:09:21.880 and I shall take advantage of the fact to ask him for the number 01:09:22.040,01:09:24.600 while I'm there... Bye. 01:09:33.400,01:09:34.680 Are we going in? 01:09:34.680,01:09:35.920 We're going in. 01:09:37.560,01:09:38.840 This is it... 01:09:40.840,01:09:42.320 We're here. 01:10:28.000,01:10:29.680 Make sure you keep warm, José. 01:10:30.520,01:10:31.880 These images here, José... 01:10:31.960,01:10:34.320 Could you please move back, please, so he can see? 01:10:34.480,01:10:36.800 This is a video from the beginning of the century from Azinhaga. 01:10:36.920,01:10:41.000 Nothing, in the humble origins of José, would predict Saramago. 01:10:42.160,01:10:44.480 Growing surrounded by poverty 01:10:44.560,01:10:48.760 that would only allow him to finish elementary school, 01:10:50.000,01:10:52.920 until the moment that, when he was about 60, 01:10:53.000,01:10:54.800 he takes the most important decision of his life 01:10:54.920,01:10:57.000 to start working as a professional writer. 01:10:57.720,01:11:02.200 All the great events in my life occurred in my later years. 01:11:04.200,01:11:07.920 And this is the case of José who worked his entire life, 01:11:08.120,01:11:11.280 with dedication, with the rigor of a factory worker and has finally 01:11:11.960,01:11:13.240 has reaped the reward 01:11:13.320,01:11:15.880 of seeing his literature compared to the words of a prince. 01:11:16.320,01:11:20.840 Saramago told everybody that he didn't want to talk about literature 01:11:21.160,01:11:22.880 that he would prefer to talk about the world, 01:11:23.000,01:11:26.000 because someone should talk about the world. 01:11:27.440,01:11:28.800 José you look great. 01:11:29.520,01:11:32.080 -Relatively... -Give it a few days, just a few days. 01:11:32.400,01:11:36.800 But I'm getting over it... no strength, no anything, but I'll pull through. 01:11:37.320,01:11:38.560 But, you're here, 01:11:39.080,01:11:42.760 85 years old, and you're here. 01:11:44.200,01:11:50.680 And in 3 or 4 days I'll get back to the book I was writing. 01:11:53.360,01:11:54.600 All this... 01:11:57.800,01:12:01.720 which was something I thought at the beginning, 01:12:01.800,01:12:03.560 could only be done in Lisbon, 01:12:04.480,01:12:06.400 because it is the “Capital of the Kingdom”... 01:12:08.320,01:12:11.080 Well, it wasn't done, 01:12:14.640,01:12:16.200 and I doubt someone would do it. 01:12:23.000,01:12:26.000 Nobody from the Portuguese State or Government 01:12:26.080,01:12:28.480 was to be seen last weekend in Lanzarote 01:12:28.840,01:12:31.280 where the biggest exhibition 01:12:31.360,01:12:33.880 dedicated to the Portuguese Nobel of Literature, 01:12:34.080,01:12:36.960 José Saramago was 85 years old. 01:12:37.520,01:12:39.040 Surprise, surprise, 01:12:39.160,01:12:41.880 Saramago looked fragile, but on his feet, at least. 01:12:42.200,01:12:44.040 The local inhabitants from the islands 01:12:44.160,01:12:45.680 give it back with words. 01:12:46.400,01:12:48.480 Saramago, look after yourself because we like you. 01:13:23.240,01:13:24.880 Are you asleep José? 01:13:29.880,01:13:33.440 Here, take off your coat and tie. 01:13:35.600,01:13:39.000 Put on this pajamas top, you'll feel much more comfortable. 01:13:44.560,01:13:45.840 Are you happy? 01:13:46.760,01:13:48.080 More than happy... 01:13:49.160,01:13:50.840 Give me your hand. 01:13:55.280,01:13:56.520 Here you go. 01:13:57.440,01:13:59.200 The "Consistency of Dreams"... 01:13:59.280,01:14:00.520 is going to kill us. 01:14:10.880,01:14:12.280 Attention everyone! 01:14:13.080,01:14:16.040 The library of the José Saramago Foundation! 01:14:16.280,01:14:18.400 Enter and have a look, enter and have a look! 01:14:19.920,01:14:22.840 MINISTER OF CULTURE OF SPAIN 01:14:22.840,01:14:24.160 Is José sleeping? 01:14:24.920,01:14:29.640 Spain's problems will be over the day we unite the Iberian peninsula... 01:14:30.120,01:14:36.120 We'll put the capital in Lisbon, the Portuguese will think it an honor, 01:14:36.600,01:14:38.600 they'll be as proud as can be... 01:14:38.600,01:14:40.440 And for God's sake! Forget about the problem 01:14:40.520,01:14:43.000 with Catalonia and the Basque problem! Enough! 01:14:43.480,01:14:47.320 And Madrid. Madrid will be for enjoying life, for art. 01:14:47.640,01:14:49.480 The ministries, to Lisbon. 01:14:50.520,01:14:52.200 Would you mind a small provocation? 01:14:52.360,01:14:56.320 You're not going to unite Austria and Germany as well, are you? 01:14:56.400,01:14:58.560 -No, no, no!!! -It's an old dream. 01:14:58.880,01:15:01.720 No, no because Austria and Germany would all become Nazis. 01:15:02.160,01:15:03.920 How long? 01:15:03.920,01:15:05.760 To know what my answers should be like... brief? 01:15:06.040,01:15:07.320 Yes, brief. 01:15:07.320,01:15:08.640 Twenty seconds. 01:15:08.920,01:15:12.560 Is José presently writing “The Elephant's Journey”? 01:15:12.640,01:15:14.960 What does Pilar know about this novel? 01:15:15.200,01:15:17.400 Well, I'm sorry to inform you that, despite knowing 01:15:17.400,01:15:19.920 everything about it, I'm not going to say anything. 01:15:20.360,01:15:25.040 -José continues actively... -Yes. He continues writing, 01:15:25.400,01:15:28.440 but not when he goes on trips. 01:15:28.600,01:15:34.800 He is on page fifty something and soon, when this whole thing is over, 01:15:35.360,01:15:39.360 he is anxious to sit back down in front of his computer 01:15:39.800,01:15:45.280 and write his daily program, which is 2 pages a day. 01:15:46.080,01:15:51.240 So can we hope to see this new book being released next year? 01:15:52.760,01:15:57.320 Well... I'd probably say more than hope, you can be pretty sure of it! 01:16:01.440,01:16:04.680 And now for the latest news 01:16:04.800,01:16:08.960 José Saramago has just been admitted into a clinic in Lanzarote. 01:16:09.440,01:16:12.760 It has not been possible to enter in contact 01:16:12.760,01:16:16.000 with Saramago's family. 01:16:16.520,01:16:20.600 This is, of course, something we will be following over the next few hours. 01:16:31.880,01:16:34.880 1ST WEEK IN THE HOSPITAL 01:16:50.560,01:16:53.160 Camões I don't know what you have here. 01:16:54.440,01:16:57.520 I can't tell if this is a burr or a tick. 01:17:03.040,01:17:08.080 This one showed up after they had just told José he had won the Camões Award. 01:17:09.000,01:17:11.920 That's why he's called Camões, 01:17:12.000,01:17:14.640 because he came the exact same moment the news did. 01:17:15.240,01:17:17.120 And Pepe because 01:17:17.360,01:17:21.600 here in Spain everybody has this habit of calling José, Pepe. 01:17:22.600,01:17:26.480 So we decided to call the dog Pepe 01:17:26.600,01:17:29.880 so that each time somebody called José Pepe... 01:17:30.680,01:17:34.800 José would answer: "That sounds good. But why are you telling the dog that?" 01:17:37.000,01:17:40.440 Pepe and Greta, his friends, have already died. 01:17:41.360,01:17:43.560 José was very ill, 01:17:44.040,01:17:45.800 but please, he isn't about to die. 01:17:45.880,01:17:48.600 which is something that all our colleagues seem to want. 01:17:49.560,01:17:50.760 Of course they do. 01:17:50.760,01:17:52.800 All of them are just waiting to publish their pages... 01:17:53.080,01:17:54.360 It's incredible... 01:17:54.840,01:17:56.600 Incredible, our profession. 01:17:57.840,01:18:00.400 Come here, come here! 01:18:00.880,01:18:03.560 Come on over and cheer us up a bit, we need it. 01:18:04.920,01:18:07.440 Oh... the hospital is all decorated with Christmas decorations, 01:18:07.520,01:18:09.080 you wouldn't believe it... 01:18:13.360,01:18:19.000 2ND WEEK IN THE HOSPITAL 01:18:22.720,01:18:26.720 3RD WEEK IN THE HOSPITAL 01:18:28.280,01:18:31.080 Pilar! Pilar! 01:18:34.320,01:18:35.880 Saramago! 01:18:36.320,01:18:39.280 José! Saramago! Saramago! Saramago! 01:18:39.400,01:18:40.680 The introduction: 01:18:40.680,01:18:44.480 José arrived in Granada and saw the Del Rio's "Cave". 01:18:44.640,01:18:47.600 And he did his best to learn “All the Names”, 01:18:48.240,01:18:49.520 Castril... 01:18:52.520,01:18:53.800 The wedding... 01:18:56.960,01:18:58.280 So pretty... 01:19:02.480,01:19:03.800 Let's go? 01:19:03.800,01:19:06.120 I'm going to the hospital. Bye... 01:19:06.360,01:19:08.000 Goodbye... 01:19:08.320,01:19:09.840 And the countdown now begins, 01:19:09.960,01:19:11.960 and all you gentlemen have to eat the 12 grapes. 01:19:12.080,01:19:13.360 Let's go then: 01:19:13.360,01:19:15.560 Now: One! 01:19:16.400,01:19:17.640 Two! 01:19:18.480,01:19:19.760 Eleven! 01:19:20.520,01:19:21.800 Twelve! 01:19:24.960,01:19:26.480 Everyone with their glass... 01:19:26.720,01:19:27.880 To José! 01:19:28.080,01:19:29.360 To José! 01:19:31.760,01:19:33.080 Hold on... hold on... 01:19:33.280,01:19:34.560 A toast to Pilar. 01:19:35.280,01:19:36.520 To Pilar! 01:19:44.200,01:19:45.520 You say “ano feliz”? 01:19:45.800,01:19:47.560 Is that how you say it in Portuguese? 01:19:47.680,01:19:49.160 “Ano” is a bit strange, isn't it? 01:19:49.440,01:19:52.560 -Pilar said that they're waiting... -Let's go... 01:19:52.560,01:19:54.840 Have you never been to a demonstration before? 01:20:00.000,01:20:03.520 HAPPY 2008 01:20:03.520,01:20:04.800 1...2...3! 01:20:16.120,01:20:17.840 They're doing the wave thing... 01:20:25.200,01:20:26.840 Say hello to them, José... 01:20:26.960,01:20:28.240 wave your hand... 01:20:33.480,01:20:39.840 Life: effective existence, the movement of matter in an organized manner, 01:20:40.800,01:20:43.080 agitation, activity, movement. 01:20:44.360,01:20:46.560 Die, live no more. 01:20:47.760,01:20:49.640 Like, desire greatly, 01:20:49.960,01:20:51.480 never to be concluded. 01:20:52.040,01:20:54.360 To be extinguished, weakened. 01:20:56.640,01:20:57.920 Death: 01:20:58.120,01:21:00.600 Cessation of vital functions. 01:21:01.720,01:21:05.920 The end of life, to have been and no longer be. 01:21:07.280,01:21:10.160 It was a river, with clear water. 01:21:11.360,01:21:13.120 It was a field, all green, 01:21:13.720,01:21:18.320 and in the background, a line of trees way in the distance. 01:21:18.440,01:21:21.440 And me, walking in the water, 01:21:23.280,01:21:27.080 completely naked, heading I don't know where. 01:21:28.240,01:21:30.960 I've been thinking: should I go and see Solomon! 01:21:31.880,01:21:33.480 Why is this animal so filthy?! 01:21:33.560,01:21:34.840 Where is its keeper? 01:21:34.840,01:21:36.400 I would imagine it has a keeper. 01:21:36.520,01:21:38.840 Manchester, Edinburgh, 01:21:39.160,01:21:41.480 Liverpool and London. 01:21:41.880,01:21:45.640 Is Lanzarote, at this moment of my life, a recovered Azinhaga? 01:21:46.440,01:21:47.680 Love: 01:21:48.000,01:21:51.760 To have love, affection, devotion, esteem... 01:21:52.960,01:21:54.720 Pilar, Pilar, 01:21:54.800,01:21:56.160 Pilar, Pilar... 01:21:56.320,01:21:58.200 Pilar, Pilar, Pilar... 01:22:00.480,01:22:02.480 José... José... 01:22:03.640,01:22:04.880 José. 01:22:06.160,01:22:07.400 José. 01:22:09.680,01:22:10.880 It's 12:00. 01:22:11.000,01:22:12.720 The book, Pilar. 01:22:13.880,01:22:16.080 I'm afraid of not being able to finish it. 01:22:17.080,01:22:18.360 The dreams... 01:22:19.400,01:22:21.200 I have very strange dreams. 01:22:21.920,01:22:26.040 And all of this is also to do with the place I'm in. 01:22:29.720,01:22:31.440 A constantly lit light. 01:22:33.160,01:22:36.560 O close my eyes in order to sleep, but the light is still there. 01:22:37.400,01:22:38.720 And the dreams... 01:22:39.080,01:22:40.680 I've never had dreams like this. 01:22:43.040,01:22:44.280 Terrible. 01:22:45.800,01:22:47.440 And it is nothing to do with... 01:22:47.800,01:22:50.040 with death or the fear of death. 01:22:50.840,01:22:52.720 It's to do with situations. 01:22:53.720,01:22:55.920 There's this one dream in which I scream. 01:22:56.880,01:22:58.240 I think I scream. 01:22:59.560,01:23:00.840 For Pilar... 01:23:02.680,01:23:05.360 And they're desperate screams. 01:23:07.320,01:23:08.640 And she doesn't come. 01:23:30.640,01:23:36.120 5TH WEEK IN THE HOSPITAL 01:23:36.680,01:23:39.560 Oh, the elephant... the elephant's journey. 01:23:40.680,01:23:42.760 This is the elephant's journey. 01:23:49.280,01:23:50.680 You light these... 01:23:52.560,01:23:53.800 Shit! 01:23:54.360,01:23:55.640 And the heat... 01:24:02.880,01:24:05.520 You see, isn't that nice? 01:24:07.800,01:24:09.040 I want to sit down. 01:24:09.840,01:24:13.400 I can see José is getting better and if José gets better I'm fine. 01:24:15.240,01:24:17.560 But I couldn't care less about anything else. 01:24:17.640,01:24:20.000 They can say what they like, each and every one of them. 01:24:20.080,01:24:23.880 You know what the problem is? Saramago never hid his age. 01:24:24.720,01:24:27.840 And I was told by the doctors that this would be a long process. 01:24:28.080,01:24:31.240 At least three months, and that there would be ups and downs, 01:24:31.320,01:24:35.520 And unhappily there was a down period. 01:24:35.800,01:24:39.560 Because what Saramago didn't do was to rest at home. 01:24:40.880,01:24:42.840 He went to the opening of the exhibition... 01:24:42.920,01:24:44.720 Travelled from Madrid to Lanzarote... 01:24:44.720,01:24:46.240 A press conference... 01:24:46.320,01:24:48.480 Received I don't know how many people at home... 01:24:48.760,01:24:50.800 Over a few days, of course... 01:24:52.480,01:24:55.000 And he paid the price, he's paying the price. 01:24:56.960,01:24:59.520 I can tell you, this will not happen again. 01:25:01.080,01:25:03.560 From now on no more paying... 01:25:03.800,01:25:06.680 We're not going to do anything... 01:25:08.560,01:25:15.280 But look after his health, with lots of love and care. 01:25:15.360,01:25:19.480 Because... if they want to break this rule, 01:25:19.480,01:25:21.200 it'll be over my dead body. 01:25:23.480,01:25:25.400 For the time being, I'm still alive, 01:25:25.520,01:25:28.520 and as long as it lasts, it lasts. One day it'll be over. 01:25:28.600,01:25:31.160 We already know that. Now... 01:25:31.160,01:25:32.800 I wouldn't want to be in Pilar's shoes 01:25:32.920,01:25:34.160 after I'm gone. 01:25:35.720,01:25:37.000 But, anyway, 01:25:37.000,01:25:38.680 we'll be close to one other, 01:25:38.760,01:25:43.160 because my ashes are going to be placed under a stone in the garden 01:25:43.800,01:25:47.480 so, you might say, we'll still be together in a way... 01:25:51.720,01:25:53.880 I climbed Blanca Mountain yesterday. 01:25:54.840,01:25:58.800 I remember thinking while I was going up that if I fell and died, 01:26:00.000,01:26:01.600 I wouldn't write anymore books. 01:26:01.880,01:26:03.560 I didn't pay much heed to the warning. 01:26:03.640,01:26:05.280 The only really important thing 01:26:05.400,01:26:08.440 I had to do at the moment was get to the top. 01:26:13.080,01:26:14.560 Pilar. 01:26:16.040,01:26:17.360 Pilar! 01:26:18.840,01:26:25.400 It's the voice of someone who feels like they're losing their grip on life. 01:26:26.080,01:26:27.360 And who makes 01:26:27.440,01:26:29.000 one last attempt 01:26:30.000,01:26:34.280 to be heard and remain on this side, this side. 01:26:36.120,01:26:40.280 Where we, the living, still are. 01:26:49.600,01:26:54.480 3RD ACT THE COME BACK 01:27:04.280,01:27:08.240 DAY OF THE RETURN TO HOME 01:27:10.080,01:27:12.240 The man walks through the mist. 01:27:12.600,01:27:13.840 Once more Solomon! 01:27:13.840,01:27:15.640 Please, just one more time. 01:27:15.720,01:27:17.680 And Solomon answered his plea. 01:27:17.840,01:27:20.320 It was as if the elephant had thought 01:27:20.640,01:27:23.720 “that poor devil is going to die, I'll resuscitate him.” 01:27:24.200,01:27:27.320 And now the poor devil is fading away in gratitude 01:27:27.440,01:27:29.960 and pledges of thanks, for the rest of his life. 01:27:30.440,01:27:34.240 I was lost in the fog and it was his voice that saved me. 01:27:36.040,01:27:40.000 And then the sun, like an immense broom of light, 01:27:40.200,01:27:43.640 pushed through the fog and swept it all away. 01:27:43.800,01:27:45.840 It went "pop" and vanished. 01:27:47.200,01:27:49.640 Some onomatopoeic words are very handy. 01:27:49.720,01:27:52.360 Imagine if I had to describe the entire process 01:27:52.480,01:27:54.440 leading to the guy's disappearance 01:27:54.560,01:27:57.280 I'd need at least ten pages. 01:27:58.000,01:27:59.240 Pop! 01:28:00.360,01:28:03.280 The life and work of José Saramago has arrived in Lisbon. 01:28:03.360,01:28:05.920 At the opening for the press the Nobel laureate promised 01:28:06.000,01:28:08.120 a new book by the end of the year. 01:28:08.600,01:28:12.120 I am in Portugal, and Pilar and I are very happy to be here. 01:28:12.400,01:28:15.080 That this may be only the beginning, of common work, 01:28:15.680,01:28:20.160 and besides that, I recently made a very important discovery, 01:28:20.520,01:28:23.520 I came to the conclusion that the most beautiful 01:28:23.640,01:28:25.280 language in the world is portuguese. 01:28:26.120,01:28:28.200 I am home once again. 01:28:29.240,01:28:33.040 The first step in a reconciliation with Portugal has been taken. 01:28:33.160,01:28:36.520 The exhibition can be seen until July 27th. 01:28:40.080,01:28:42.920 PRIME MINISTER OF PORTUGAL 01:28:42.920,01:28:44.640 I am the one that is honored. 01:28:44.880,01:28:47.680 I would like José Saramago to know what the Portuguese State thinks. 01:28:47.760,01:28:51.520 I want him to know that we like him, and that we are very proud 01:28:51.600,01:28:54.520 of everything he has done for the Portuguese language and say, 01:28:54.680,01:28:57.160 that in the name of the Portuguese government, 01:28:57.160,01:28:58.960 with men like these 01:28:58.960,01:29:02.320 that you make the history of a country and it is with men like these, 01:29:02.400,01:29:06.120 men of noble spirit supplanting and surpassing themselves, 01:29:06.400,01:29:09.440 that it is possible to build a better country. Thank you very much. 01:29:17.280,01:29:18.520 Recovered... 01:29:21.520,01:29:23.320 The whole Saramago clan united! 01:29:24.560,01:29:26.680 The presentation was at five in the afternoon? 01:29:26.680,01:29:27.880 The presentation of what? 01:29:28.040,01:29:29.800 The opening ceremony of the Cannes Festival. 01:29:29.880,01:29:32.680 And then everyone took a break, and all those people walking by, 01:29:32.800,01:29:34.280 looking marvelous, beautiful and glamorous... 01:29:34.360,01:29:36.960 But they don't say anything about that because what's important 01:29:37.040,01:29:39.800 is a guy reading something about some stadium. 01:29:39.920,01:29:42.000 Please, somebody tell me what's going on for this to be 01:29:42.080,01:29:46.920 going out live on every channel on Portuguese television, 1, 3... 01:29:47.160,01:29:49.160 All the channels are showing this guy, but, who is this guy?! 01:29:51.360,01:29:53.440 Henrique Cymerman in Israel. 01:29:56.240,01:29:58.240 Blindness by Fernando Meirelles 01:29:58.320,01:29:59.800 has been adapted for the cinema from 01:29:59.880,01:30:02.000 “Essay on Blindness" by José Saramago. 01:30:02.120,01:30:04.920 The film opens the Cannes Film Festival today. 01:30:05.600,01:30:07.880 Blindness, a movie based on a Portuguese book, 01:30:07.960,01:30:09.360 filmed by a Brazilian 01:30:09.440,01:30:11.320 and spoken in English. 01:30:11.320,01:30:13.920 This will be Cannes's 61st edition. 01:30:15.480,01:30:17.240 There are ideas for just about anything, 01:30:17.320,01:30:19.480 and the first solar bra has just been invented. 01:30:19.720,01:30:23.880 "BLINDNESS" PRIVATE SCREENING 01:30:45.880,01:30:47.160 Fernando... 01:30:48.040,01:30:49.280 No need... 01:30:49.560,01:30:52.640 I am so happy for having seen this film... 01:30:59.600,01:31:02.080 as the same as I've written. 01:31:02.640,01:31:03.880 Really? 01:31:04.120,01:31:06.400 You don't know how happy that makes me too. 01:31:19.520,01:31:24.760 -It's made our day. -Thank you, thank you so much. 01:31:25.760,01:31:29.080 Imagine when I was so ill, so ill, that I could have... 01:31:30.680,01:31:34.800 that I wouldn't have been here today, 01:31:36.640,01:31:41.080 imagine what I would have missed without ever knowing! 01:31:42.520,01:31:43.840 Just imagine. 01:31:43.840,01:31:47.720 -We'll take the A1 North, right? -Not now. We're going to Azinhaga. 01:31:48.000,01:31:50.200 -Azinhaga? -But do you know where? 01:31:50.200,01:31:53.000 -More or less. -Did anyone explain to you? 01:31:53.000,01:31:56.040 -No, nobody told me anything. -I don't believe it, I don't believe it. 01:31:56.040,01:31:57.240 Where's José? 01:31:57.240,01:31:59.840 I'm here honey, right here, waiting for you. 01:32:00.760,01:32:02.840 Ah... At your party you are alone... 01:32:03.000,01:32:04.520 It's too hot. 01:32:06.440,01:32:08.560 Fucking menopause... I can't breathe. 01:32:11.480,01:32:15.160 It did not take us long to perceive the love and affection 01:32:15.280,01:32:17.880 he felt for Azinhaga, 01:32:17.880,01:32:21.440 always in support of strengthening José Saramago's bonds with his roots. 01:32:21.920,01:32:26.720 I would like to thank you all from the bottom of my heart for this honor. 01:32:27.760,01:32:30.960 It is the first, and probably, the last. 01:32:31.760,01:32:32.920 And OK, fine. 01:32:34.360,01:32:36.200 José Saramago Street, which already existed... 01:32:36.280,01:32:38.880 I'm not sure if the street sign is still the same, 01:32:38.880,01:32:41.760 because the last time we saw it was 20 years ago, and on it is written: 01:32:41.840,01:32:43.560 José Saramago, writer. 01:32:43.840,01:32:47.520 Now, at a certain point it intersects Pilar del Rio Street... 01:32:48.400,01:32:50.240 And I hope they haven't put “wife”. 01:32:57.800,01:32:59.560 TO PILAR, WHO WASN'T BORN 01:32:59.760,01:33:01.080 AND TOOK IT SO LONG TO ARRIVE 01:33:07.520,01:33:10.200 And we will all soon be able 01:33:10.200,01:33:13.240 to visit the José Saramago Foundation in Azinhaga. 01:33:13.640,01:33:14.880 Thank you. 01:33:15.600,01:33:17.040 It is all just great... 01:33:17.240,01:33:18.520 very nice. 01:33:19.160,01:33:22.360 -Could I ask you for an autograph? -It embarrasses me, I get embarrassed. 01:33:22.560,01:33:23.840 Have a kiss instead. 01:33:24.960,01:33:26.240 Fantastic, thank you. 01:33:26.360,01:33:28.000 A kiss, kiss, kiss... 01:33:30.160,01:33:31.440 A kiss. 01:33:31.440,01:33:34.200 -Congratulations. -No. Congratulations for you today. 01:33:34.440,01:33:37.800 -Yes, yes. Today is... -Today is your day. 01:33:38.040,01:33:39.760 You stole the writer's day today... 01:33:40.080,01:33:41.920 When I was researching for the book... 01:33:42.000,01:33:43.440 I saw that the Brazilians... 01:33:43.520,01:33:46.760 There were a lot of researchers interested in his work. 01:33:47.040,01:33:50.440 Portuguese people think that Brazilian universities are shit. 01:33:51.760,01:33:52.960 You can write that down, say it. 01:33:52.960,01:33:54.880 And they don't want to sign the Orthographic Agreement. 01:33:54.880,01:33:57.640 Well, we can begin, as far as I'm concerned... 01:33:57.800,01:33:59.800 -So, let's start with the Foundation. -OK. 01:34:01.120,01:34:04.040 Pilar as ”presidente” of a foundation... 01:34:05.360,01:34:06.600 “Presidenta”. 01:34:09.240,01:34:12.720 “Only the ignorant call me “presidente”. 01:34:14.240,01:34:17.800 The word didn't exist because the position didn't exist. 01:34:17.880,01:34:19.760 -Yes. -Once the position exists, 01:34:19.840,01:34:22.640 the word that denominates the position comes into existence. 01:34:22.720,01:34:24.760 I am the “presidenta”. 01:34:25.200,01:34:27.560 And whoever calls me “president” (in the masculine), is stupid. 01:34:28.880,01:34:31.240 Do you think that, women are just like men in politics, 01:34:31.320,01:34:33.600 are they better or worse than them? 01:34:33.760,01:34:36.320 Women can never be like men, never. 01:34:36.320,01:34:37.560 Because we're not men! 01:34:38.040,01:34:40.440 But don't you think women work better than men...? 01:34:40.520,01:34:44.480 Not better, but we work more, work better and we are multitask. 01:34:44.680,01:34:49.240 Zapatero has legalized gay marriages... 01:34:49.560,01:34:52.040 He fights for all the gay causes. 01:34:52.120,01:34:56.080 Why is that? To get some more votes or because he really believes in it? 01:34:57.720,01:35:04.680 Let's see, all the gay causes and all that concerns human rights. 01:35:05.040,01:35:09.240 So Zapatero has come to correct a democratic deficit. 01:35:10.640,01:35:14.960 And the legalization of gay marriage was a democratic deficit. 01:35:15.120,01:35:17.920 Nowadays, concerning the huge number of gay people in Spain, 01:35:18.000,01:35:22.200 It must be complicated for matrimonial life... 01:35:22.640,01:35:23.880 for marriages... 01:35:23.880,01:35:30.280 Much more complicated for matrimonial life is men with big bellies, 01:35:31.800,01:35:33.040 more than gays. 01:35:33.120,01:35:34.440 Than to be alone without a man? 01:35:34.520,01:35:35.920 What do you mean? 01:35:36.160,01:35:39.240 There are a lot of gay men in Spain. 01:35:39.360,01:35:45.440 No, there are a lot of men and women with a different sexual option, 01:35:45.720,01:35:51.280 but that will not affect us men or women who have a different sexual option... 01:35:51.480,01:35:53.720 There isn't any problem, I insist! 01:35:54.040,01:35:59.360 To be stupid, to be rude or mean, is a handicap for human relationship... 01:35:59.640,01:36:01.360 To be gay? For God's Sake! 01:36:01.680,01:36:04.080 Pilar is a very controversial name in Portugal! 01:36:04.160,01:36:08.040 No, the name Pilar does not exist in Portugal. 01:36:08.320,01:36:10.960 But, please, for God's sake, flatter me some more, 01:36:11.080,01:36:13.760 tell me it is, lie to me, tell me I'm controversial. 01:36:13.840,01:36:15.760 No, it does not exist, I am not controversial 01:36:15.840,01:36:20.280 because I don't have any public repercussion. 01:36:20.440,01:36:21.800 And why am I controversial? 01:36:22.080,01:36:29.040 Because, it' like this, today, most Portuguese see Pilar as 01:36:29.160,01:36:32.600 the woman who was responsible for taking José Saramago to Spain. 01:36:32.680,01:36:35.480 No, that was done by the government of Cavaco Silva. Next. 01:36:36.280,01:36:40.480 Pilar changed Saramago's life, you control his agenda... 01:36:40.800,01:36:42.080 organizes his life. 01:36:42.320,01:36:47.720 If it weren't for Pilar, it would be somebody else he'd have to hire. 01:36:47.880,01:36:49.760 The idea I have of Pilar, 01:36:49.760,01:36:52.200 is that in large crowds she doesn't like to talk... 01:36:52.320,01:36:55.200 No, no, not at all. 01:36:55.480,01:36:58.360 I love to talk in front of large crowds, for God's sake, of course. 01:36:58.560,01:36:59.920 I just don't have the opportunity. 01:37:00.480,01:37:02.440 You don't have the opportunity? Why? 01:37:03.360,01:37:09.680 I am a journalist who has been pulling out of public life for some time. 01:37:11.520,01:37:15.880 And, because I am not a politician nor a leader of the masses, 01:37:15.880,01:37:17.680 that is, because I don't have... 01:37:17.760,01:37:19.880 But I like it. Of course I like it! 01:37:20.000,01:37:21.320 No problem with that. 01:37:21.640,01:37:22.880 One last question: 01:37:22.880,01:37:25.440 Is it hard being the “presidenta” of a foundation like this? 01:37:28.040,01:37:29.600 Hard is being a miner. 01:37:31.160,01:37:36.160 Pilar is not complacent, and she can't stand unscrupulousness, 01:37:36.240,01:37:38.600 hypocrisy, they drive her mad. 01:37:38.920,01:37:41.520 There's a connection there with Saint Therese, 01:37:41.920,01:37:44.200 she was a devout Theresian. 01:37:44.400,01:37:45.680 You've got to have certain postures. 01:37:45.960,01:37:47.600 And there's a phrase that can be translated as 01:38:07.120,01:38:12.320 PRESIDENTA, BECAUSE I'M A WOMAN. 01:38:12.320,01:38:16.320 Tonight don't miss our special report on José Saramago... 01:38:16.480,01:38:18.560 Saramago has the world in his hands. 01:38:19.440,01:38:21.200 I've been recuperating and... 01:38:21.320,01:38:24.560 My God, José, just look at you... 01:38:24.560,01:38:25.800 My God! 01:38:27.520,01:38:29.880 I can't believe it! 01:38:31.120,01:38:32.400 Horrible! 01:38:33.880,01:38:36.200 And that wasn't the worst part, Pilar. 01:38:36.320,01:38:38.080 Horrible, look at me! 01:38:40.200,01:38:42.920 But, why do I look so ugly! Good grief! 01:38:42.920,01:38:45.760 Between you sick and me looking so ugly, horrible!! 01:38:46.080,01:38:47.840 Inseparable now for over 20 years 01:38:48.040,01:38:50.600 now rest forever at toponymic of Azinhaga... 01:38:50.840,01:38:54.400 For all the lovers in the world to come and meet 01:38:54.400,01:38:58.480 and kiss on the intersection of Pilar del Rio and José Saramago Street. 01:38:58.960,01:39:00.280 June 14th. 01:39:00.640,01:39:02.760 Today is the anniversary of the day I met Pilar, 01:39:02.960,01:39:05.080 and I go home with great happiness. 01:39:06.400,01:39:09.760 No episode to put down, no story for posterity... 01:39:09.840,01:39:11.680 That's how things are, I mean... 01:39:11.760,01:39:13.080 “Happy” is the last word I wrote. 01:39:13.360,01:39:15.960 As the journey's end is uneventful, 01:39:16.120,01:39:19.160 I don't feel it is necessary, plus it's something I would never do, 01:39:19.160,01:39:20.760 making up silly stories 01:39:20.760,01:39:22.760 just to give more content. 01:39:23.960,01:39:25.960 The great journey, deep down, 01:39:26.080,01:39:28.240 was that which began in Lisbon 01:39:28.560,01:39:31.440 and ended on the border of Italy with Austria. 01:39:32.360,01:39:33.680 No, there's not that much, I mean, 01:39:33.680,01:39:36.440 the fact is that we have this habit of romanticizing everything, 01:39:37.000,01:39:40.800 and we immediately start... dreaming up philosophical theories... 01:39:41.880,01:39:43.440 The elephant shits, obviously. 01:39:45.400,01:39:47.640 The elephant pisses, pisses, eats... 01:39:48.320,01:39:52.920 doesn't speak, doesn't think and I'm not about to make him 01:39:53.000,01:39:54.880 think like humans, obviously. 01:39:55.680,01:39:58.800 The king observed the spectacle irritated and revolted, 01:39:59.120,01:40:02.280 having regretted giving in to his early-morning impulse 01:40:02.440,01:40:06.080 to make a sentimental visit to a brutish pachyderm, 01:40:06.240,01:40:08.200 measuring almost,4 rods high... 01:40:08.320,01:40:10.840 More than 4...no, not rods. 01:40:11.000,01:40:12.240 I don't think it's rods. 01:40:12.320,01:40:15.080 A first translation is just that. 01:40:15.680,01:40:20.080 There'll be a first, then a second, a third, a fourth and, a fifth. 01:40:21.040,01:40:23.320 I'll change the dedication in this book. 01:40:25.040,01:40:28.280 "To Pilar, who wouldn't let me die!" 01:40:30.600,01:40:32.040 And it's true, it's true... 01:40:34.040,01:40:36.400 For Pilar until the very last moment. 01:40:38.760,01:40:40.200 "Death With Interruptions" 01:40:41.120,01:40:43.160 For Pilar, my home; 01:40:45.480,01:40:47.400 "Essay on Lucidity" 01:40:48.520,01:40:50.440 For Pilar, all days; 01:40:51.760,01:40:53.120 "Notes from Lanzarote" 01:40:54.040,01:40:55.280 For Pilar; 01:40:56.640,01:40:57.840 "Don Giovanni" 01:40:57.920,01:40:59.840 For Pilar, my pillar; 01:41:01.520,01:41:03.000 "Blindness" 01:41:03.480,01:41:04.760 For Pilar; 01:41:05.600,01:41:07.920 "The Gospel According to Jesus Christ" 01:41:08.160,01:41:09.440 For Pilar; 01:41:10.520,01:41:11.840 "Short Memoirs" 01:41:12.360,01:41:17.120 Pilar hadn't been born yet, and it took her so long to come. 01:41:21.360,01:41:24.720 I'm sorry, I don't want to climb up a mountain if there are elevators. 01:41:25.200,01:41:26.960 Pilar was desperate. 01:41:27.400,01:41:29.200 I didn't tell her where I was going. 01:41:29.280,01:41:32.720 I wasn't thinking about climbing Blanca Mountain when I left home. 01:41:34.080,01:41:36.200 I just turned up and said: 01:41:36.280,01:41:39.200 “What if I walked up a bit?” and that's what I did... 01:41:42.240,01:41:44.440 And then afterwards I thought: “what if I climbed up a bit more?”, 01:41:45.000,01:41:46.480 I climbed up a little bit more. 01:41:47.400,01:41:50.440 “And what if I went to the top?”, and I carried on... 01:41:53.760,01:41:55.480 I was 70 years old! 01:41:56.000,01:41:59.680 -Did I say nothing when you got back? -No, you did. 01:42:03.280,01:42:05.560 I didn't say anything for a couple of days. 01:42:09.000,01:42:11.200 I was on the verge of packing my things and leaving. 01:42:12.600,01:42:13.880 She was angry. 01:42:19.080,01:42:24.560 But, anyway, it's something I can tell our visitors, isn't it? 01:42:25.000,01:42:28.280 As if I had climbed... 01:42:30.960,01:42:34.680 ...Everest. My own Everest... that's what it is. 01:42:37.040,01:42:38.360 But anyway... 01:42:39.640,01:42:43.080 The next time you feel like you need an adventure, 01:42:43.600,01:42:47.800 I suggest you take up embroidery, and embroider a tablecloth. 01:42:48.560,01:42:53.600 It's a lot more productive, meticulous work and requires a lot of effort, 01:42:53.680,01:42:56.920 a lot of concentration and talent, and it endures. 01:42:57.800,01:42:59.640 You have up to page 100? 01:43:00.760,01:43:03.760 I can give you today, or tomorrow, 10 more. 01:43:04.560,01:43:09.640 Because like I told you, I'll be finishing it this next week. 01:43:09.880,01:43:12.480 MONDAY 01:43:12.480,01:43:13.680 Pilar! 01:43:13.680,01:43:16.040 José, if you want we can go to the library. 01:43:16.040,01:43:17.520 Give me the paper, darling. 01:43:23.040,01:43:24.760 And then the young girl, 01:43:24.880,01:43:28.680 gets free from her mother and runs to the elephant. 01:43:29.160,01:43:32.160 And what the elephant does, and this is historical, 01:43:32.280,01:43:37.960 is grab the girl with its trunk and returns her to her mother. 01:43:38.280,01:43:45.840 The overseer couldn't do anything apart from cross himself... 01:43:46.440,01:43:49.520 Hardly able to believe what he had just seen with his own eyes. 01:43:49.600,01:43:54.560 The next stage begins when he heads north 01:43:54.720,01:43:55.880 or you could say to hell. 01:43:57.000,01:43:59.040 The guy who organized this trip? 01:43:59.400,01:44:02.440 And now we need a very strong Spanish swearword. 01:44:02.680,01:44:04.800 Something like: he could eat shit... 01:44:04.960,01:44:06.240 No... 01:44:06.240,01:44:07.800 He could stick it up his ass... 01:44:09.240,01:44:10.760 -Can you put that? -No? 01:44:11.000,01:44:13.720 So, when he finishes, for me to finish the same day, 01:44:13.720,01:44:16.760 I throw myself into it, so that, 01:44:17.040,01:44:19.440 if he finishes the book at 4:00 in the afternoon, 01:44:19.720,01:44:23.120 I finish at 8:00, and they can both have the same date. 01:44:25.480,01:44:30.600 And so the book is reaching the end, but at least, concerning the narration, 01:44:31.120,01:44:33.320 this is not going to be sustained until the end. 01:44:33.840,01:44:38.160 José? On the official page of the Lisbon City Hall... 01:44:38.400,01:44:39.640 They finally put... 01:44:39.720,01:44:42.880 It's the first institution to say: Pilar Del Río -"Presidenta" 01:44:45.320,01:44:47.720 The war isn't over, 01:44:47.960,01:44:49.720 And that's why we're here. 01:44:49.800,01:44:55.320 To demand that they give life back, for hundreds and thousands of deaths, 01:44:55.520,01:44:57.440 that Bush, Blair and Aznar, 01:44:57.840,01:45:01.440 at least ask for the victims for forgiveness, all victims. 01:45:01.880,01:45:04.040 And we won't budge on this! 01:45:04.400,01:45:06.840 They won't change our position, and we won't move. 01:45:06.920,01:45:08.160 No to war! 01:45:08.320,01:45:09.640 No to war! 01:45:10.200,01:45:14.720 MANIFESTATION AGAINST THE WAR IN IRAQ 01:45:15.320,01:45:16.520 José? 01:45:16.520,01:45:18.160 José, wake up it's already 10:00! 01:45:18.240,01:45:21.080 -We have to go to Medina's house. -10:00? 01:45:21.080,01:45:23.120 -Yes. -Do you think Obama will win? 01:45:23.200,01:45:25.440 -I think so. -But what's your opinion? 01:45:25.440,01:45:27.600 -That Obama... -My opinion doesn't count. 01:45:27.680,01:45:30.320 Obama, who I have defended since the very first day, 01:45:30.400,01:45:34.120 The very first hour against my wife here who was all for... 01:45:34.200,01:45:38.680 -Hillary Clinton, I was also for Obama. -Hillary Clinton... a woman... 01:45:40.560,01:45:44.480 -Who I think is fantastic. -She's not fantastic at all, Pilar. 01:45:44.480,01:45:46.520 Just ambitious, ambitious... 01:45:46.880,01:45:48.160 As you should be. 01:45:48.360,01:45:50.040 As she should be, no, Pilar... 01:45:50.120,01:45:51.600 She doesn't have to be ambitious. 01:45:51.680,01:45:54.800 She's climbing a mountain, representing us... 01:45:54.960,01:45:57.880 -And demanding a position. -Who does she represent? 01:45:58.200,01:46:02.920 First of all, she isn't representing you because she doesn't even know you exist. 01:46:03.080,01:46:07.480 -No. Not her, nor Obama... -Hang on, Pilar... 01:46:07.640,01:46:10.040 Not even the congressman in my village. 01:46:10.320,01:46:15.120 This type of power in a woman you don't know anything about... 01:46:15.280,01:46:18.320 -No, I know enough, enough. -You don't know anything... 01:46:18.560,01:46:21.760 I know enough about this woman, enough about her life... 01:46:21.840,01:46:23.720 -You don't know anything. -I know enough about politics... 01:46:23.800,01:46:26.680 You don't know anything. Pilar, please. 01:46:26.760,01:46:28.040 Let's see: 01:46:28.040,01:46:29.920 a) she is worth much more than her husband, 01:46:30.000,01:46:32.840 b) at one moment she had to say fuck it 01:46:33.200,01:46:35.320 and step out of the way for her husband to pass, 01:46:35.400,01:46:39.680 when it was she who had the political will and ability. 01:46:40.400,01:46:42.840 She was always the one with her hands on the reins. 01:46:43.000,01:46:45.240 -You're just making things up now... -No, no way, I know... 01:46:45.320,01:46:47.440 -A sense of responsibility! -Who? 01:46:47.680,01:46:51.040 Because at that moment she supported... 01:46:51.120,01:46:53.880 Her husband didn't, when he had the trainee under the desk... 01:46:54.720,01:46:58.560 She was the one who had a sense of responsibility. 01:46:58.840,01:47:02.640 In the White House, the office, his work place? 01:47:02.880,01:47:06.400 No, Pilar, the indignity of that man who did what he did, 01:47:06.480,01:47:07.760 his indignity. 01:47:07.880,01:47:11.280 And that other woman, the famous Hillary Clinton, 01:47:11.400,01:47:16.800 who represents you! And it seems a shame that a woman like that represents you... 01:47:17.040,01:47:18.240 I want to be her friend! 01:47:18.240,01:47:20.760 And there's another type of indignity which is no less than the other, 01:47:21.120,01:47:26.880 which involved sacrificing everything for the possibility 01:47:26.960,01:47:28.760 of becoming the President of the United States. 01:47:29.040,01:47:32.040 No, sacrificing everything for her husband. 01:47:32.040,01:47:33.320 No, no Pilar? 01:47:34.080,01:47:36.600 Women, imagine how they have been marginalized, 01:47:36.680,01:47:37.960 and that's the last thing I'll say 01:47:38.040,01:47:41.400 because there is something I can never forgive Hillary Clinton for: 01:47:41.480,01:47:44.120 And I would like to meet her, and if life is fair, 01:47:44.200,01:47:46.280 we'll meet one day. 01:47:47.160,01:47:48.400 I want to tell her... 01:47:48.600,01:47:50.880 And that is: going on her husband's campaign trail 8 years ago! 01:47:50.960,01:47:55.200 When she gets to that point, it's not so easy getting anywhere. 01:47:55.320,01:47:56.760 You're so radically feminist... 01:47:56.840,01:47:59.480 I am so radically feminist because I have 01:47:59.480,01:48:01.760 to compensate for the lack of feminism in some of the others... 01:48:04.240,01:48:07.360 It's just that I've been thinking about this subject now for 58 years. 01:48:07.360,01:48:09.960 Pilar can I say something? 01:48:10.400,01:48:14.880 You two are the only ones today who could have got me out of the house, 01:48:15.200,01:48:17.000 where I was finishing my book... 01:48:17.000,01:48:19.040 -No José, don't tell them! -No. 01:48:19.280,01:48:21.400 -Don't tell them, they don't care. -Oh, please! 01:48:21.640,01:48:24.080 -Don't tell them. -Where I was finishing my book... 01:48:25.080,01:48:28.520 I was finishing my book and I'm going back home... 01:48:28.880,01:48:30.120 To finish the book. 01:48:30.120,01:48:31.960 -When are you going to finish it? -Today. 01:48:32.480,01:48:33.760 Today! 01:48:39.360,01:48:42.000 -Wait, José. -I'm waiting, dear. 01:48:54.320,01:48:59.880 Dom João III murmured, Cousin Maximillian says that Salomon... 01:49:01.680,01:49:03.600 The queen didn't let him finish. 01:49:03.720,01:49:08.280 And ran off to shut herself in her room, where she cried for the rest of the day. 01:49:10.480,01:49:15.280 Dear friends, 01:49:16.200,01:49:18.120 Dear friends, 01:49:19.360,01:49:23.680 José Saramago has finished his new book “The Elephant's Journey". 01:49:24.160,01:49:27.840 Saramago began this task when he was incubating a serious illness, 01:49:27.920,01:49:30.480 which later led to those closest to him to fear for his life. 01:49:30.920,01:49:32.920 He himself, in the hospital, 01:49:33.040,01:49:35.480 was afraid he wouldn't finish his book. 01:49:36.000,01:49:38.560 However, seven months later, 01:49:38.560,01:49:41.080 he finished it. 01:49:41.760,01:49:45.560 The elephant was not so lucky, but we can talk about this later. 01:49:45.640,01:49:48.720 A big hug to you all and may happiness be with you. 01:49:53.120,01:49:54.360 Pilar. 01:50:06.600,01:50:11.000 3 DAYS OFF 01:50:13.920,01:50:16.720 No, don't put it in blue, Pilar. Don't do that. 01:50:17.680,01:50:20.840 -Don't get mad... -I'm not mad, dear. 01:50:21.120,01:50:24.720 But you know I don't like this in color. 01:50:26.120,01:50:28.080 See you later then, José, at the office. 01:50:28.280,01:50:29.520 See you later, Luís. 01:50:30.680,01:50:32.800 José Saramago, in your blog you wrote, 01:50:32.880,01:50:36.520 that interviews have become, a sort of reheated soup. 01:50:37.240,01:50:39.160 So what motivated you to be here today? 01:50:39.280,01:50:43.560 When I say reheated soup, it is partly your fault. 01:50:45.320,01:50:47.920 Because as you always ask the same questions, 01:50:48.920,01:50:51.280 I have to give the same answers. 01:50:52.480,01:50:53.680 Next question? 01:50:53.680,01:50:55.640 What is a sustainable mode of life? 01:50:57.080,01:51:00.720 Sustainable. That which can be sustained... 01:51:00.960,01:51:03.240 It sometimes seems that Portugal 01:51:03.320,01:51:05.480 appears to be getting more and more like your books. 01:51:05.640,01:51:08.920 How do you see Portugal's present political and social scenario? 01:51:09.000,01:51:11.920 Has the proximity of death changed anything in you, 01:51:12.040,01:51:14.520 seeing as it has not changed anything in your story? 01:51:15.640,01:51:16.840 Serenity. 01:51:17.960,01:51:19.880 And without forgetting the important fact 01:51:19.960,01:51:21.760 that I didn't have to read Paulo Coelho. 01:51:28.880,01:51:32.960 After suffering from a serious illness, have you changed your concept of God? 01:51:33.040,01:51:35.800 And why would I have changed my concept of God? 01:51:35.880,01:51:37.520 Because he supposedly saved my life? 01:51:38.520,01:51:41.080 An author who is known for not using punctuation in his sentences 01:51:41.160,01:51:42.600 he is José Saramago 01:51:42.680,01:51:44.320 he is here in São Paulo to release his new book 01:51:44.400,01:51:46.400 and I am going to try and talk to him because whatever it takes 01:51:46.480,01:51:48.800 I need to talk to him, and I need to breath 01:51:48.880,01:51:50.520 and I need to get his autograph. 01:51:51.080,01:51:53.640 Look, Maria Pilar, Saramago's wife. 01:51:53.720,01:51:55.200 You won't get me... 01:51:55.320,01:51:57.920 -C.Q.C. won't get me. -We won't get you? 01:51:57.920,01:51:59.760 It's just a little battle of wits, right? 01:51:59.760,01:52:01.880 Are you saying that both of us are intelligent? 01:52:02.160,01:52:05.200 He writes a lot about women in his books, doesn't he? 01:52:05.280,01:52:07.000 Women are always strong... 01:52:07.080,01:52:09.440 I want to know if you beat him up... 01:52:10.760,01:52:12.680 Not beating, per se. 01:52:12.680,01:52:15.600 Were you with him after he had seen Fernando Meirelles' film? 01:52:15.600,01:52:18.080 I heard he cried a lot on that day, no? 01:52:18.280,01:52:19.800 Was the movie all that bad? 01:52:20.280,01:52:22.720 -Aren't you going to take a photo? -He's taking it. I just wanted to ask. 01:52:22.800,01:52:24.240 Will you let me ask it? 01:52:24.920,01:52:26.840 If you allow me, Mr. José... 01:52:27.600,01:52:29.040 Hurry up! 01:52:29.840,01:52:31.760 I just wanted you to write "for Janaína" please, 01:52:31.840,01:52:33.720 because I bought it autographed. -I can't, I haven't got time! 01:52:34.000,01:52:36.800 I can ask him. You can only ask. 01:52:38.600,01:52:39.880 Thank you. 01:52:40.840,01:52:42.880 Saramago, my name is Stefano. 01:52:43.120,01:52:44.800 Please, could you draw me a hippopotamus? 01:52:45.200,01:52:48.080 -Ah, of course. -On this piece of paper here. 01:52:48.320,01:52:51.040 I don't have time and there are... 01:52:51.840,01:52:53.360 It can be a simple drawing. 01:53:01.000,01:53:02.840 I think I have an idea Pilar... 01:53:03.640,01:53:04.880 About Cain. 01:53:08.400,01:53:09.600 A beer... 01:53:09.600,01:53:10.880 A beer. 01:53:11.520,01:53:12.760 Please, a beer. 01:53:12.760,01:53:14.320 I'm having a panic attack. 01:53:21.320,01:53:24.720 José, repeat what you said as you were getting off the plane. 01:53:24.880,01:53:27.120 -Say it. -I think I'm going to? 01:53:28.080,01:53:30.560 To do what...? Write another book. 01:53:31.280,01:53:33.120 -I believe? -You've got a story. 01:53:43.600,01:53:45.400 Ángel Campos died! 01:53:46.760,01:53:49.200 -Ángel Campos? -Yes. 01:53:49.520,01:53:51.560 Oh, poor Ángel Campos! 01:53:51.880,01:53:54.560 I'm beginning to feel like a survivor already. 01:53:55.720,01:53:57.440 Well, it's time I had a shave. 01:53:58.840,01:54:00.040 it's almost time. 01:54:00.040,01:54:02.000 Have they tidied up the room? 01:54:17.000,01:54:19.000 Say hello to Saro, José. 01:54:19.160,01:54:21.880 -Hi Saro! -Hi, José, how are you? 01:54:22.000,01:54:24.440 Fine, thank you. And you, how are you? 01:54:24.880,01:54:29.640 -I'm here, working. -Very good, that's what we pay you for, 01:54:29.840,01:54:32.680 because if you don't work, we wouldn't need you. 01:54:32.960,01:54:36.520 -Look, look, look...! -That's capitalism for you. 01:54:36.920,01:54:39.480 Are you going to dress José up all handsome and smart? 01:54:39.760,01:54:43.280 We slept with President Putin... both Putin and Lula 01:54:43.360,01:54:45.120 in the same hotel, just so you know. 01:54:45.200,01:54:48.000 And now we're going to have lunch with Chico Buarque. Are you jealous? 01:54:49.280,01:54:54.000 Really? Listen, bring me something autographed by Chico Buarque... 01:54:54.240,01:54:55.480 Great! 01:54:55.480,01:54:59.720 Look, I'm checking José... 01:55:00.400,01:55:01.720 He's handsome, Pilar. 01:55:02.000,01:55:06.560 ...and his pressure is 12.7 maximum! Son of a bitch! 01:55:06.560,01:55:10.040 -I can't believe it! -and 7 minimum... 01:55:10.280,01:55:12.360 and a pulse of 85. 01:55:12.800,01:55:15.160 Tell José that I'll never forgive him? 01:55:15.480,01:55:19.160 Wait, I'm going to measure it again, just to make sure. 01:55:23.840,01:55:25.120 José Saramago, 01:55:25.120,01:55:29.360 who gives us the honor of his visit to the Brazilian Academy of Literature. 01:55:29.480,01:55:31.600 We will now have a signing session 01:55:31.960,01:55:35.400 but he won't be writing dedications. 01:55:35.760,01:55:37.240 We don't want to tire him out. 01:55:37.840,01:55:39.120 Thank you very much. 01:55:40.560,01:55:41.880 Can I kiss you on the cheek? 01:55:41.960,01:55:43.280 Go ahead. 01:55:43.280,01:55:44.800 But you're not going to take a picture, are you? 01:55:45.560,01:55:47.400 -I admire you so much. -Thank you. 01:55:47.480,01:55:48.760 I was even in Lisbon but I couldn't find you. 01:55:51.000,01:55:52.240 Saramago...? 01:55:53.000,01:55:54.320 I love you, you hear? 01:55:56.560,01:55:57.800 Hum? 01:55:57.800,01:55:59.320 I love you, OK? 01:56:00.920,01:56:03.080 This one is from one of our academy members. 01:56:03.200,01:56:04.480 And the last one. 01:56:05.120,01:56:06.360 Wow... 01:56:07.160,01:56:09.480 -Hard work! -But it's over. 01:56:09.480,01:56:11.280 -A lot of work! Very good. -Thank you so much. 01:56:11.600,01:56:14.800 Thank you for your visit, and please accept a... 01:56:14.960,01:56:16.360 well, the water is there? 01:56:16.440,01:56:19.760 Now, nothing more. Just get back to the hotel quickly and rest. 01:56:19.840,01:56:21.080 Very well! 01:56:39.640,01:56:42.040 -You guys are going to kill me! -I'll leave this here! 01:56:43.080,01:56:44.360 You'll kill me! 01:56:45.280,01:56:48.040 In my next life, I want to be a tree. 01:56:48.320,01:56:53.280 With my roots sunk into the earth, and nobody will get me to move from there. 01:57:02.680,01:57:08.040 -And now José should be on this side. -Well that's true? but no big deal. 01:57:08.560,01:57:11.200 -But we can swap. -No Pilar. 01:57:11.320,01:57:14.440 He can just turn the camera and it's fine, 01:57:14.840,01:57:16.440 he's had enough of my face. 01:57:16.560,01:57:19.200 But, it's your face with Copacabana in the background. 01:57:19.760,01:57:21.080 Just look at the beautiful background now? 01:57:22.640,01:57:25.800 Could you pull over to the side for a moment please so we can record better? 01:57:25.880,01:57:28.560 We're going to change places. 01:57:30.040,01:57:33.680 Now that wasn't so hard and it'll last a whole life, 01:57:33.760,01:57:36.480 we'll be able to see these images for years and years. 01:57:37.120,01:57:39.840 You have amazing faith in the future, Pilar. 01:57:45.320,01:57:49.000 To president Lula da Silva. 01:57:59.680,01:58:00.960 No. 01:58:00.960,01:58:02.480 You all exaggerate. 01:58:03.000,01:58:04.280 It's very simple. 01:58:14.720,01:58:17.520 I think I can say that I have no regrets whatsoever. 01:58:18.000,01:58:22.720 To be honest, I can't imagine a better life than mine. 01:58:23.760,01:58:27.160 With everything that has happened, the ups and downs, to the point where, 01:58:27.240,01:58:30.360 if somebody asked me if I'd live it all over again, 01:58:31.520,01:58:32.840 I would have to say yes. 01:58:33.200,01:58:34.520 All of it. 01:58:37.400,01:58:38.960 There's something you have to understand... 01:58:39.040,01:58:40.760 I shouldn't have been a writer... 01:58:41.160,01:58:43.160 I was not born to be a writer. 01:58:43.920,01:58:49.440 So I only fulfill my destiny as a writer in the last phase of my life. 01:58:50.360,01:58:52.360 Which means that I've been very lucky... 01:58:52.440,01:58:54.240 Because if I had just died earlier, well... 01:58:54.360,01:58:56.200 nothing... It would have been a shame! 01:58:59.160,01:59:04.640 "THE ELEPHANT'S JOURNEY" INTERNATIONAL RELEASE 01:59:04.640,01:59:08.720 The book was written in a state of 01:59:08.880,01:59:11.880 pure joy. 01:59:13.120,01:59:14.400 And perhaps this happiness 01:59:14.400,01:59:17.080 actually resulted from me having escaped. 01:59:18.720,01:59:22.400 Actually, I am here today as something of a survivor. 01:59:24.360,01:59:25.880 For how much longer... 01:59:25.960,01:59:27.800 we don't know... we never know. 01:59:29.240,01:59:30.480 In any case, 01:59:31.880,01:59:34.440 the other day during an interview in Lisbon, 01:59:34.600,01:59:36.040 I think it was in Lisbon, 01:59:36.960,01:59:39.560 they asked me: "And now that you have everything... 01:59:39.640,01:59:43.360 the Nobel prize, glory, fame, this, and that, and whatever, 01:59:43.920,01:59:46.360 what more would you like? 01:59:47.920,01:59:49.760 and I answered: "Time". 01:59:52.120,01:59:53.360 Life. 01:59:55.480,01:59:57.680 Time... and life to... 02:00:00.200,02:00:03.200 Carry on with my work, 02:00:05.760,02:00:07.000 with my wife, 02:00:11.320,02:00:12.640 and to live... 02:00:14.320,02:00:16.120 as I have lived up until now. 02:00:16.720,02:00:18.280 And this is all part... 02:00:19.560,02:00:21.360 of the way I see myself. 02:00:22.880,02:00:24.320 And to continue... 02:00:26.760,02:00:30.360 nourishing myself and live and bring to fruition 02:00:32.240,02:00:36.040 the happiness which is mine and the happiness which is ours. 02:00:38.120,02:00:40.640 There is something I can repeat here... 02:00:40.880,02:00:42.920 Now that I'm 86... 02:00:43.760,02:00:48.280 If I had died before meeting Pilar 02:00:49.520,02:00:52.720 I'd have died much older than I was. 02:01:01.440,02:01:03.360 But, before I start crying, 02:01:04.800,02:01:08.040 let's get back quickly, to the elephant's journey. 02:01:09.560,02:01:13.040 The elephant died a year after arriving in Vienna. 02:01:13.880,02:01:18.240 They skinned him and cut his front feet to use as 02:01:18.320,02:01:23.240 an umbrella stand, 02:01:24.280,02:01:27.160 walking sticks, canes, the umbrellas... 02:01:29.440,02:01:31.280 If this had not happened, 02:01:33.040,02:01:34.320 something historical, 02:01:36.400,02:01:40.360 I wouldn't say I wouldn't have written the book but I just might not have, 02:01:41.560,02:01:44.240 I might not have because when they cut off his feet, 02:01:44.320,02:01:48.760 the feet that had walked thousands of kilometers to get to Vienna, 02:01:50.080,02:01:53.240 deep down was a metaphor... 02:01:56.440,02:01:59.200 I mean... of the futility of life. 02:02:00.120,02:02:04.400 We are unable to make it into anything more than the little it is, 02:02:06.400,02:02:07.720 so, what a sad ending... 02:02:07.800,02:02:09.120 what a sad ending... 02:02:10.520,02:02:14.600 And that is why this elephant owes its literary existence 02:02:17.040,02:02:18.800 to this particular circumstance. 02:02:55.720,02:02:57.520 The invitation is still standing, 02:02:58.360,02:03:01.920 to go to Kyoto, I'd like to go there. 02:03:04.960,02:03:08.760 I'd like to go to India, like to go to India... 02:04:28.120,02:04:29.400 Pilar... 02:04:34.360,02:04:35.960 We'll meet elsewhere.